General star wars talk/discussion/complaining

[chuckdee]

None. Hux was great in TFA.

And it's funny- some can succeed with this lack. Rogue One has no memorable bad guys. You can say Vader, but he wasn't really the bad guy that they were striving against. It was the story and the conglomeration of obstacles and how they got past them rather than any particular villain that made it so good.

 

[chuckdee]

One of those things ain't like the other. Goose's death wasn't embarrassing.

And Elvis is just... shrug.

 

[MGibster]

None. Hux was great in TFA.

A lot of things were great in TFA. Given Hux's apparent age, I figured he got into his position via cronyism or because he was a yes man rather than competence on this part.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

And Elvis is just... shrug.

Chuck! No "Fight the Power" quote here? (Subject to ENWorld's posting guidelines, of course.)

 

[payn]

A lot of things were great in TFA. Given Hux's apparent age, I figured he got into his position via cronyism or because he was a yes man rather than competence on this part.

Kind of confirmed in TJL when Snoke talks about Hux being a useful idiot becasue of his ambition.

 

[Gradine]

That wasn't the intent. The intent was to find out what story wise had been done to create the air of mystery and coolness that surrounded him, and whether that was done by the media and writers, or by zeitgeist. It doesn't matter if someone thinks he's cool or not- I personally do. But I admit it wasn't because of anything that was shown.

That's just the JJ Abrams "Mystery Box" nonsense working as intended.

Kind of confirmed in TJL when Snoke talks about Hux being a useful idiot becasue of his ambition.

I do think also one of the shows (maybe Ahsoka?) has Hux's dad show up briefly as a high-ranking Imperial (Remnant?) officer.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

That's just the JJ Abrams "Mystery Box" nonsense working as intended.

The system can work -- Grant Morrison used it to great effect in DC One Million, where he tossed out dozens of cool sounding ideas, some of which were fleshed out, some of which weren't, but which added up to give the feel of a lot of world-building on the strength of cool names and two- and three-word concepts.

Abrams just doesn't seem to get that it all needs to feel like it hangs together, even if we never see how.

 

[Gradine]

Abrams just doesn't seem to get that it all needs to feel like it hangs together, even if we never see how.

Yeah that's not a lesson I think he's ever going to learn at this point

 

[jian]

Comparing SW to the MCU as media properties is quite an interesting exercise, not least because they’re both owned by Disney now.

MCU is of course a much more recent phenomenon with its heyday being about 2008-2019, a run of 23 films which are generally very well regarded. Since then there have been 12 films whose reception has been more varied, and 12 TV series ditto. But the juggernaut still has plenty of momentum and is still turning out decent media that many people enjoy and pay to see. If any franchise has a lock on money forever for the investors, it’s this one.

SW is older, smaller, and more fragmented, with only 11 films and 14 TV series. Again, reception after the first few films is very variable. It’s very much not a juggernaut and arguably still finding its way - on the face of it there’s not much that unites Solo, Rogue One, Kenobi, Andor, Ahsoka, and Skeleton Crew. Good returns at the box office are not guaranteed. But that also makes it more interesting to monitor - what will SW decide it is today?

 

[pukunui]

He is most famous for what he didn't do on film - he first appeared as an exclusive toy.

My understanding is that he first appeared in a parade in 1978: Boba Fett Made His Real Debut Two Years Before Empire Strikes Back, In The Last Place You'd Expect

I do think also one of the shows (maybe Ahsoka?) has Hux's dad show up briefly as a high-ranking Imperial (Remnant?) officer.

Mando S3. Moff Gideon is late for his Imperial Remnants Shadow Council Teams meeting. Hux's dad (who was played by Domhnall Gleeson's brother, Brian) is present, talking about Project Necromancer.