Ghost in the Shell Stuff

[Chrysalis]

In Man-Machine Interface there is a reference worth considering: There is a level of seperation happening between the body and the soul with cyborgification.

I think this would be an interesting angle to explore. Maybe a normal person will constantly have issues with certain functions.

As to most of the CP d20 material. I can write better. And that is not self engrandizement!

-Chrysalis

 

[eyebeams]

I don't think it would come out too weird, personally.

I don't know how to break down action points, but I'm going to guess.

Another feat is worth .2CR and +1 Skill Points Per Level is worth about .1CR.

Unfortunately, the designers for D20 Future didn't really use a system like that to break down the cyber in the Future book, and it shows. You can't even really break them down via cost DCs.

I found that Purchase DCs work pretty well, actually. Cybernetics aren't much more lopsided than standard feats and skills (which run the course from roleplaying flash to incredibly useful). D20 rules systems aren't really point-based. The important Purchase DCs belong to a limited set of enhancements, which interact pretty well. The rest are sub-optimal from a powergaming perspective, but no more so than other sub-optimal choices.

The Con+1 limiter is something of a nasty kludge, though.

 

[eyebeams]

A small point about the Major. She is really Shirow's Mary Sue, the same Ed Greenwood's is Elminister. Basing information on her is a bit like making every PC in FR a copy of the 'minster.

-Chrysalis

That's the difference between a PC and an Ordinary. I think this problem would get solved more often if there were more ways to "tune" action point use by genre, among other things.

 

[eyebeams]

As to most of the CP d20 material. I can write better. And that is not self engrandizement!

-Chrysalis

It varies. I myself wrote a .pdf called Net of Dreams that was pretty horrible, but then again, it was an incomplete first draft that was published without my permission or prior knowledge by a company that did not pay me for it until I made borderline threats. If you ever run across it, don't buy it.

The Terminal Identity material I write seems to sell well enough, though.

 

[Chrysalis]

I used to run a fanzine called Edgerunner for Cyberpunk 2020, but that was years ago.
Writing, editing, images, website.

I am currently writing a d20 supplement called the blood-bound, it should be seeing the light on a publisher's desk once its finished in a couple months.

Still. Go to www.cyberpunk.co.uk if you want to meet the rest of the cyberpunk crowd. They're not scary, they just are.

-Chrysalis

 

[D_Sinclair]

It varies. I myself wrote a .pdf called Net of Dreams that was pretty horrible, but then again, it was an incomplete first draft that was published without my permission or prior knowledge by a company that did not pay me for it until I made borderline threats. If you ever run across it, don't buy it.

The Terminal Identity material I write seems to sell well enough, though.

If you want a taste of her "I can write better" cyberpunk genre material, you need only refer to that horrible Cyber Style product line, which, ironically, includes your rough draft of Net of Dreams. Its generally considered a toss up as to whether Digital Burn or Cyber Style is the worst D20-based cyberpunk genre material ever published. Though I rank State of the Art and Dark Future way up there, too...

 

[Chrysalis]

Hi David Sinclair, or should I say Dana Jorgensen.

I haven't written a single line for those two products!

In July 2001, Hellhound graciously put an open ended letter about d20 Cyber Style looking for writers for rec.games.frp.cyber. After an initial sample piece which I wrote, I was supposed to write a whole lot more.

Unfortunately, shortly after I got the job, I had to turn it down due to personal reasons and the sinking realisation that I had no clue what the hell the new D&D version was like.

Later on I started toying with the idea of starting up Edgerunner again and I wrote and received several articles which I published up on the website I ran (including one of yours Dana), this was in November 2001 - Summer of 2002, when the magazine finished off with a bit of a whimper with me creating a collection of all the articles in print. That piece in PDF format is sitting currently on a CD in a box in a different country than I am currently living in.

-Chrysalis

 

[D_Sinclair]

Hi David Sinclair, or should I say Dana Jorgensen.

I haven't written a single line for those two products!

In July 2001, Hellhound graciously put an open ended letter about d20 Cyber Style looking for writers for rec.games.frp.cyber. After an initial sample piece which I wrote, I was supposed to write a whole lot more.

Unfortunately, shortly after I got the job, I had to turn it down due to personal reasons and the sinking realisation that I had no clue what the hell the new D&D version was like.

Later on I started toying with the idea of starting up Edgerunner again and I wrote and received several articles which I published up on the website I ran (including one of yours Dana), this was in November 2001 - Summer of 2002, when the magazine finished off with a bit of a whimper with me creating a collection of all the articles in print. That piece in PDF format is sitting currently on a CD in a box in a different country than I am currently living in.

-Chrysalis

Well, my boss did point out that you, Chrysalis, are the same Lauri Gardener they have credited as one of the authors of their books. At the same time, I also notice Hellhound ISN't listed in the credits. So it would seem that indeed something you wrote ended up in the book, and whether you like it or not, that drivel stands as a testament to your writing skills. Point is, what's out there with your name on it doesn't amount to enough quality material for you to be rubbing the faces of others in the dirt with ego-inflated comments like "I can write better".

And for someone with barely 15 posts to your credit, please don't start confusing me with my boss. I'm hassled enough by the regulars who are incapable of getting it straight.

 

[The Black Kestrel]

Hi David Sinclair, or should I say Dana Jorgensen.

I haven't written a single line for those two products!

In July 2001, Hellhound graciously put an open ended letter about d20 Cyber Style looking for writers for rec.games.frp.cyber. After an initial sample piece which I wrote, I was supposed to write a whole lot more.

Unfortunately, shortly after I got the job, I had to turn it down due to personal reasons and the sinking realisation that I had no clue what the hell the new D&D version was like.

Later on I started toying with the idea of starting up Edgerunner again and I wrote and received several articles which I published up on the website I ran (including one of yours Dana), this was in November 2001 - Summer of 2002, when the magazine finished off with a bit of a whimper with me creating a collection of all the articles in print. That piece in PDF format is sitting currently on a CD in a box in a different country than I am currently living in.

-Chrysalis

Well, my boss did point out that you, Chrysalis, are the same Lauri Gardener they have credited as one of the authors of their books. At the same time, I also notice Hellhound ISN't listed in the credits. So it would seem that indeed something you wrote ended up in the book, and whether you like it or not, that drivel stands as a testament to your writing skills. Point is, what's out there with your name on it doesn't amount to enough quality material for you to be rubbing the faces of others in the dirt with ego-inflated comments like "I can write better".

And for someone with barely 15 posts to your credit, please don't start confusing me with my boss. I'm hassled enough by the regulars who are incapable of getting it straight.

Whoa! Folks lets keep this civil and not start a flame war. This thread is getting seriously off-topic.

 

[eyebeams]

If you want a taste of her "I can write better" cyberpunk genre material, you need only refer to that horrible Cyber Style product line, which, ironically, includes your rough draft of Net of Dreams. Its generally considered a toss up as to whether Digital Burn or Cyber Style is the worst D20-based cyberpunk genre material ever published. Though I rank State of the Art and Dark Future way up there, too...

I think the company involved just bit more off than they could chew, got desperate and tossed on anything they had drafts of. Net of Dreams predated D20 Modern. The purpose of that draft was to:

1) Provide rough and ready examples of a D20 netrunning system for developer approval and playtest.

2) Provide a history flavour outline.

3) And *get back*, revise extensively and resubmit.

I finished the draft, sent it in and waited. Then, one day while I was visiting RPGNow, I saw it. It do not consider it a finished product by any stretch of the imagination. Nobody should buy it. To be fair, I can see that incompleteness being a problem that made for poor quality all around. Some of the people tagged (with promises of rates that I now know no .pdf outlet can possibly afford, since they were close to my print rate) were actually pretty talented, such as Ken Hood and at least one person with experience working on Shadowrun.

All the same, selling my rough draft without telling me and not paying me for a year? Bad form.