Oh please, what apology could these guys ever give that any of you would actually accept?
If they use thier own words - as Ernie has clumsily done twice now - you'll knit pick it & claim it's false.
He didn't specifically mention x. He didn't say y. He didn't phrase it like this. Or like that. "I would've phrased it like ______". He didn't follow this formula.... etc.
Because you can't accept that this is about as good as your going to get from this clod.
If the formula is followed?
Then you'll just write it off as reading a script.
And no matter what form an opology takes you wont believe they mean it.
So why is having an apology so important to any of you?
Malcolm X said it best:
"If you stick a knife in my back 9 inches and pull it out 6 inches, that's not progress. If you pull it all the way out, that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. They haven't pulled the knife out; they won't even admit that it's there."
Half hearted "Sorry you got hurt" with no acknowledgement of your own hand pushing the knife into the wound is just pulling it out, like, 2 inches. Same thing with the deflection of responsibility into "I was hacked!" or "It was someone else's opinion I was just sharing" or whatever else.
An actual apology, one that acknowledges wrongdoing, expresses regret, and offers desire to change, is a step toward getting that knife out and a bandage on the wound. It won't be healed overnight, obviously, a 9 inch deep knife wound in the back has probably punctured -something-, but it's a start.
As for
@Shroompunk Warlord... Yeah. I'm totally comfortable creating that "Minefield of Shibboleths" as you call it if it means ending bigotry. See, that's the thing people keep glossing over. The "Enemy" is trying to destroy me as a person. They want me dead. Not quiet, not compliant, not away from themselves. D.E.A.D. Dead.
I want them uncomfortable. I want everyone to know who they are and see them for the bigots that they are because only through public shaming are we going to stop them in a nonviolent manner. Enlisting white cis hetero men and women (As well as everyone else) and creating a general understanding that Bigotry is "Not Okay" is the only way to stop the people who want me, and anyone like me, dead... without risking lives.
For all the annoyance it causes people, it's better than violence and death. And considering the number of trans women who have been tortured to death, dismembered, burned, and dumped into dumpsters over the years... I think a little annoyance for all of us is a freaking DEAL compared to the alternative.
And that's not a hyperbolic statement. Trans women -have- been tortured to death, dismembered, burned, and dumped into dumpsters.