JoeGKushner
Adventurer
Henry said:
Now if only the people doing the miniatures could get that down.
I've seen hill giants ranging from ogre size to should be ounted on a huge base.
Giants: How big should they be in an a Fantasy RPG?
- Thread starter frankthedm
- Start date
Now if only the people doing the miniatures could get that down.
I've seen hill giants ranging from ogre size to should be ounted on a huge base.
frankthedm
First Post
Even some of the sculptors agree with me giants should be bigger than thier 1E sizes.JoeGKushner said:
Though you are right, the 3E Box set hill giant was huge more or less. The DDM hill giant was smaller than the harbinger ogre IIRC.
The Hill giant barbarian was a nice size IMHO.
Reaper wise, I have two of blorg mudstump, though that newer Popeye'd Armed hill giant was not my cup of tea.
Last edited:
Aeric
Explorer
It always bugged me that ogres and hill giants were the same size. Giants should be giant! I also feel that dragons should be bigger. Anything smaller than Huge should be a baby.
As for the argument against fighting toe-to-toe with a giant, that's something that shouldn't be happening anyways. Ranged attacks and mobility, those should be how giants are downed. And magic. Enlarging the fighter is always fun. Or HR it so that the giant takes X amount of damage before his legs are so messed up that he either goes down on one knee or falls on his bum, in either case providing medium-sized adventurers access to his vitals.
As for the argument against fighting toe-to-toe with a giant, that's something that shouldn't be happening anyways. Ranged attacks and mobility, those should be how giants are downed. And magic. Enlarging the fighter is always fun. Or HR it so that the giant takes X amount of damage before his legs are so messed up that he either goes down on one knee or falls on his bum, in either case providing medium-sized adventurers access to his vitals.
pawsplay
Hero
Anything over fifteen feet it getting out of the realm of a Big Dude with a Big Sword and into the realm of ancient mythology. I'd like hill giants to be something thirty or forty ordinary soldiers might have a chance of taking down, not something that can jump over a castle wall and pull down the main tower with its bare hands.
Aeric said:
And that's the other thing I house-ruled at the same time. In 3E it has the additional advantage of fixing the fact that giant and dragon hit dice are all out of sync with the guidelines of size-per-hit-dice. For me, the first dragon age category is Large, anything after that Huge (didn't change hit dice, just attacks; for giants I increased size & decreased hit dice back to 1E levels at the same time).
Agree with Frank about the barabarian hill giant mini, I just picked one up last week, actually.
Here's an interesting bit of experience. At GenCon, they had a "life size" statue of a troll. As near as I can tell it was built to the same dimensions as in the MM, but standing next to it, it felt BIG.
You don't realize how big a humanoid nine feet tall is until it's towering over you. Those hands looked like they could wrap clear around my head like a baseball, and those fangs looked like they would hardly slow down tearing my flesh. I felt like a toddler standing next to it.
After being next to that troll, I am fully prepared to call a guy ten feet tall a giant.
Now I agree that giants have too many racial hitdice, but that should be fixed by reducing the racial hitdice, not embiggening the giants. It's more fun when you can stack 'em with class levels.
You don't realize how big a humanoid nine feet tall is until it's towering over you. Those hands looked like they could wrap clear around my head like a baseball, and those fangs looked like they would hardly slow down tearing my flesh. I felt like a toddler standing next to it.
After being next to that troll, I am fully prepared to call a guy ten feet tall a giant.
Now I agree that giants have too many racial hitdice, but that should be fixed by reducing the racial hitdice, not embiggening the giants. It's more fun when you can stack 'em with class levels.
frankthedm
First Post
[imagel]http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/RulesComp_Gallery/110232.jpg[/imagel]
______________________________
QUOTE=Wolfwood2
Those hands looked like they could wrap clear around my head like a baseball, and those fangs looked like they would hardly slow down tearing my flesh. I felt like a toddler standing next to it.
_________________________________
That is how a human should feel next to any monster. A giant should be big enough to wrap it's hand around your body, not just your head
______________________________
QUOTE=Wolfwood2
Those hands looked like they could wrap clear around my head like a baseball, and those fangs looked like they would hardly slow down tearing my flesh. I felt like a toddler standing next to it.
_________________________________
That is how a human should feel next to any monster. A giant should be big enough to wrap it's hand around your body, not just your head
Last edited:
Similar Threads
