Glaive, Falchion, Katar

[Starfox]

Katar: Now, this one I can see some definite use in, high crit on an off-handed weapon is a nice boon, and Rogues can enjoy the Light Blade aspect. That being said, are there viable ways to dual wield them? I was playing Final Fantasy 8 last night, and Kiros looked awfully neat with them, making me want to give it a shot. I know Tempest Fighter could do it, but perhaps a TWF Ranger would be better suited with Scimitars and have them use that feat elsewhere.

I looked at a dual Katar build and ended up as a Tempest Fighter. Not enough in the ranger to attract me. This Fighter was Str/Dex and used hide armor at upper levels - you get very good mobility that way.

 

[Benlo]

I looked at a dual Katar build and ended up as a Tempest Fighter. Not enough in the ranger to attract me. This Fighter was Str/Dex and used hide armor at upper levels - you get very good mobility that way.

I like that, sounds good. Tempest Fighter seemed like the way to go to me, too. Might do it with my next character I play.

 

[Klaus]

And sling! Though it sounds like the new Rogue uses the sling?

Oh, and Quarterstaff!

Jay

And the Shortbow.

 

[Benlo]

Eh, how many real significant variations of spear are possible? You have the throwing type (javelin), the basic stabby kind (spear), the one with several points (trident), and the long two handed variety (longspear,greatspear, why 2 variations we may never know...). Minor differences of construction really don't have much effect on function. With swords, for example, the variations are endless and a bit more significant. I think they kind of lost out with hafted weapons though when they decided to make bizarre fictional double weapons instead of building up some more interesting fighting styles with spears, polearms, and staves. I mean what really is an urgrosh except a halberd with a funny name? Granted you can use a staff in a pretty flexible manner with Staff Training, but the funky weapons are better still. And what really is a spear but a staff with a pointy end? Ah well.

All fine points. I guess the only spear variations I can think of left to do would be too handed anyway, or Fire Spears if you're a big Suikoden fan.

 

[Alukane]

I don't want a spear variation. I want a good one handed spear.

Another strange thing to me is that's not a thrown weapon, because I'm italian, and in my language:

Spear = Lancia
to Throw = Lanciare

So the spear has, inside its name, its meaning. But not in d&d. T_T

 

[AbdulAlhazred]

I don't want a spear variation. I want a good one handed spear.

Another strange thing to me is that's not a thrown weapon, because I'm italian, and in my language:

Spear = Lancia
to Throw = Lanciare

So the spear has, inside its name, its meaning. But not in d&d. T_T

Well, if you want to be able to throw it then you have the javelin, which is a perfectly good spear in its own right, though doing a bit less damage. I know what you mean, pretty much any spear probably COULD be thrown and IIRC in older editions of D&D the spear was throwable, albeit with a fairly short range, with the javelin being longer ranged and doing less damage.

I'm not sure the way they broke it down in 4e is really worse though. One option would be a feat that allows throwing regular spears with say a range of 3/6 or something. That wouldn't be absurd at all and probably wouldn't be a bad feat though it might need some other minor benefit to make it attractive. You have to admit though, most people who are primarily wielding a spear probably don't throw their main weapon much.

 

[Alukane]

Neither would I. But it would be useful. And flavourful.

 

[Klaus]

I don't want a spear variation. I want a good one handed spear.

Another strange thing to me is that's not a thrown weapon, because I'm italian, and in my language:

Spear = Lancia
to Throw = Lanciare

So the spear has, inside its name, its meaning. But not in d&d. T_T

What's the Italian for a Lance (the mounted warrior's weapon)?

 

[Benlo]

What's wrong with the Trident? Sure, the range kind of sucks, but there are enchantments to improve that.

 

[Alukane]

What's the Italian for a Lance (the mounted warrior's weapon)?

It's the same, "Lancia". You can specify, "Lancia da cavaliere" (Mounted warrior's spear).

About the trident...flavour. I don't like it