GM Dilemma

If I was the DM and I have done this:
fusangite said:
If you've clearly stated what you're looking for and placed clear limits on the classes and races available and they choose to do something directly contradicting this, they're basically saying that they don't want to play in your campaign.

If people refuse to operate within the letter and the spirit of the house rules for your campaign, then let them know that they can either find another GM or make new characters.

If I have not stated clearly which characters I wanted IMC I would restate my campaign premise and ask the players a) what they think how a Knight of Round Table campaign should be b) how their existing character fits in this campaign.

If I´m evil at that day I would use Nifft´s way. :)
 

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Sammael said:
But... clerics, druids, rangers, rogues, sorcerers, and wizards work in this kind of campaign, too.

Not as PCs - not if it's an Arthurian Knights campaign. Maybe a multiclassed Fighter-Ranger might be ok; otherwise you're deviating from the premise. It' best to start things out tightly focussed IMO.
 

I like bribery at campaign setup... I use point buy, the player gets more points if they build their character within the guidelines I've laid down. Feels less dictatorial and who doesn't like more points?

If you want to run the same campaign, then I'd agree with sitting them down and asking them to explain how their characters fit in with the setting. Then perhaps explain that you don't see the fitting in.

Or you could transplant the campaign into a different setting. Just take the plots you were going to use and change the imagery. A 'knights of the round table' and a 'good guy pirates' could share a lot in common.
 

If you didn't outline your campaign premise clearly enough you should do so again.

If you did, and they had somehow got the opinion they could be the non-knights then go with it. Have the actual knights hunting them down for being evil, lawless creatures.

"Do you yield and acquiesce to the teachings of Arthur?"
"No! Kill them my undead minions."

...

Or you could have these 3 be invited into the round table after some intial adventures where they accidentally help the needy. For example in First Knight (the movie with Richard Gere as Lancelot) he rescues Guenivere for the sake of a bit of "fluff" as opposed to heroics. He then goes on to impress Arthur and join his knights. He's still a "bad boy" but he's on the table.

D
 


Clearly the players did not listen to what you had told them. Typically, when I start a new campaign I do one of two things. 1) The first session is actually everyone designing and talking about their characters so they form a cohesive story to start with. 2) I ask them what they want and I design the characters during the week. I usually use the second option if it is the first time I am using the system so I can get a strong understanding of what the system is like and what kinds of characters are appearing in the game.
 

Have someone else GM.

If I've detailed what I'm going to GM and the players aren't into it, that's cool, but at the same time, I feel zero need to change my campaign, style, and expectations to meet a completely wild range of characters that don't fit into my game.

Now on the other hand, given those characters, I'd have 'em be outlaws to start with and have them hunted down the the various knightly orders, especially if it's a historical setting with no magic or magic items.
 

JoeGKushner said:
Have someone else GM.

If I've detailed what I'm going to GM and the players aren't into it, that's cool, but at the same time, I feel zero need to change my campaign, style, and expectations to meet a completely wild range of characters that don't fit into my game.

Now on the other hand, given those characters, I'd have 'em be outlaws to start with and have them hunted down the the various knightly orders, especially if it's a historical setting with no magic or magic items.

this is what i was gonna say.

have someone else referee.

or have them be the outlaws. and have the Goodly Knights hunt them down.
 


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