Going Archmage

[Count Arioch the 28t]

There are feats that meta-magic SLAs. there are exactly zero feats that enhance SU abilities, which Arcane Fire is, at least, no feats that affect them that I am aware of, all the meta-magic ability feats are for SLA's only.

 

[andargor]

What happens when a Quickened Fireball is chosen as an SLA? Since an SLA is normally a standard action, would this allow casting it as a free action?

And I don't have my books with me, but does Quickening a spell mean there are V,S, or M components?

Andargor

 

[andargor]

Another thing, there's the Supernatural Transformation feat in Savage Species. So, the SLA can be turned into a Su ability.

Say, Power Word, Kill 2/day as a Su ability. No save, no SR. Interesting alternative to Arcane Fire.

Andargor

 

[Will]

The ability to swap slots to gain X spell N/day is a spell-like ability, not a supernatural ability.

 

[andargor]

The ability to swap slots to gain X spell N/day is a spell-like ability, not a supernatural ability.

I'm talking about a feat that changes the SLA to Su:

Supernatural Transformation [General]
...
Benefits: One of your innate spell-like abilities becomes a supernatural ability.
...

Andargor

 

[Will]

Oooh. Woops, sorry. I don't have the book that's in... and probably wouldn't allow it in my games. But good point.

 

[Sir Whiskers]

What happens when a Quickened Fireball is chosen as an SLA? Since an SLA is normally a standard action, would this allow casting it as a free action?

And I don't have my books with me, but does Quickening a spell mean there are V,S, or M components?

Andargor

Per the MM, SLA's have no V, S, M components. For the archmage SLA power, if it's an expensive component, it's replaced by an XP cost of 10 x component cost (ouch!). SLA's still prompt an AOO.

Again, per the MM, SLA's are a standard action, unless specified otherwise. I would rule that a Quickened ability is possible, since the wording above implies that not all SLA's use a standard action. That one sounds like a GM call, but at such a high-level, why not allow it? It won't be any more problematic than a maximized chain lightning spell (one of my favorites, btw).

 

[andargor]

Per the MM, SLA's have no V, S, M components. For the archmage SLA power, if it's an expensive component, it's replaced by an XP cost of 10 x component cost (ouch!). SLA's still prompt an AOO.

Which begs the question, what's an "expensive" component? Anything with a price attached (e.g. 1gp)? 10gp? 100gp? 1000gp?

Andargor

 

[andargor]

Oooh. Woops, sorry. I don't have the book that's in... and probably wouldn't allow it in my games. But good point.

Actually, there's a case for disallowing it, since it says "innate" SLAs. One could argue that the Archmage ability (or any other feat giving SLAs) is not "innate".

Andargor

 

[Sir Whiskers]

Which begs the question, what's an "expensive" component? Anything with a price attached (e.g. 1gp)? 10gp? 100gp? 1000gp?

Andargor

One interpretation is any component listed with a specific cost. Another is anything not covered by the feat Eschew Materials. I couldn't find any specific rule for this, so you may have to just wing it.