Going Nuclear:1D&D

[DND_Reborn]

The OGL doesn't matter at all to me because the next iteration of D&D doesn't matter to me. I'm sure sometime over the next few years I'll either convert my group to AD&D, find a different group that plays AD&D, or stop playing D&D completely and maybe just make my own game. The longer I've been playing the more I've realized you really don't need anything but imagination (and dice help, of course ).

 

[mamba]

I'll still see the movie (if the word is that it lives up to the trailer), because it looks enjoyable and I don't think the angry D&D fans willing to boycott over OGL-related inside baseball are enough to send a meaningful message in regard to a major motion picture. If the movie is dependent of active D&D players it's already a failure.

certainly not with that attitude

Enjoy the movie

 

[Nikosandros]

At the moment, I'm no longer planning to see the D&D movie. Not because I have delusions that this would be significant to WotC, but rather because all that's been going on has soured me on it.

 

[Zardnaar]

At the moment, I'm no longer planning to see the D&D movie. Not because I have delusions that this would be significant to WotC, but rather because all that's been going on has soured me on it.

I was on the fence. Wasn't gonna rush out but what in reviews and word of mouth (primarily ENworld).

If true I won't be seeing it.

 

[Uller]

I have been away from the boards for a long time and came back just to see what folks are saying. I have already stopped buying WotC products so there isn't much I can do to change that now. This "leak" was likely a trial balloon and they decide the feedback is too negative they will pull a Paypal and claim it was a leaked draft or something.

I doubt it will stand....In another forum someone pointed out that Knights of the Old Republic is built on d20 Modern using the OGL 1.0. Disney owns it. I don't see them saying "Sure, Hasbro. We'll stop selling KotOR or literally give it to you to publish under 1.1."

Gonna phrase this as politely as I can. Specifically I'm advocating burning 1D&D down to the ground and all the D&D branding. Thus includes online play, the movie, new edition everything. If you play MtG you can make your own decisions.

Essentially boycott everything WotC/D&D related. If you're feeling motivated throw in Hasbro and MtG related.

And do it across all forms of social media, reddit, YouTube etc.

For me last time around it was Paizo this time around it's Kobold Press and everyone else.

Just remember monetization means nothing good.

Crush the 1.1, see them crumble before you, and to hear the lamentations of their CEO.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I 100% support someone that willing and knowingly choosing to do this, but I don't think it's for me. I may not go to 1D&D and this isn't HELPING, but I wont be boycotting.

Having said that you have to do it right. Don't play old editions, don't talk up old editions and fun times. Take a game, almost ANY game that isn't WotC AND isn't a variant D&D (may I suggest TORG, or Savage Worlds) and play that. Talk that up and teach that to new gamers... and every few months TELL Wotc/Hasbro "I have X disposable income for gaming and instead of YOU it is going to this other game"

 

[Zardnaar]

I 100% support someone that willing and knowingly choosing to do this, but I don't think it's for me. I may not go to 1D&D and this isn't HELPING, but I wont be boycotting.

Having said that you have to do it right. Don't play old editions, don't talk up old editions and fun times. Take a game, almost ANY game that isn't WotC AND isn't a variant D&D (may I suggest TORG, or Savage Worlds) and play that. Talk that up and teach that to new gamers... and every few months TELL Wotc/Hasbro "I have X disposable income for gaming and instead of YOU it is going to this other game"

If we'll as long as WotC is getting 0 money I don't think it matters if it's D&D or off brand D&D.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

Maybe you can summarize the several threads going on about all the problems wit the new OLG and whatnot. I seemed to have lost interest trying to keep up with the whole "He said, she said."

1. WotC doesn't want anyone to know anything until it's too late to change tracks.
2. Multiple reputable sources (albeit unfamiliar to me) report WotC is trying to "de-authorize" the current OGL.
3. The new "OGL" is open in name only. Harsh limits, mandatory royalties after certain income thresholds, and worse.
4. This is a leak. WotC has said they'll make a formal statement on the 13th.
5. Per the leak, WotC will try to force all existing licensees to make a decision to switch to the new license...within one week of release.
6. Hence, if there is even a CHANCE this is real, we have to make our voices heard NOW. There won't be enough time if we wait.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

I 100% support someone that willing and knowingly choosing to do this, but I don't think it's for me. I may not go to 1D&D and this isn't HELPING, but I wont be boycotting.

Having said that you have to do it right. Don't play old editions, don't talk up old editions and fun times. Take a game, almost ANY game that isn't WotC AND isn't a variant D&D (may I suggest TORG, or Savage Worlds) and play that. Talk that up and teach that to new gamers... and every few months TELL Wotc/Hasbro "I have X disposable income for gaming and instead of YOU it is going to this other game"

Alternatively?

Play 4e.

Find sources for its rules and information. By definition, none of those sources are official WotC stuff anymore because they've already deleted everything, even the digital tools. It's the forgotten edition as it is, and it's the edition 5e ran away from as fast as it gorram could. Any books you find today will almost surely be second-hand, it's been over a decade since most of them were last printed. WotC doesn't see a dime, but you're still playing D&D and telling them: "I would play YOUR product, if you weren't such @$$#*£€$."

 

[GMforPowergamers]

If we'll as long as WotC is getting 0 money I don't think it matters if it's D&D or off brand D&D.

$0 direct money can still be BILLIONS indirectly.

I have freinds that don't read comics, they don't support marvel or DC and until the MCU was in phase 2 or 3 they couldn't have told you what company made what superhero... but they bought superman shirts and watched movies and cartoons. They (and millions or billions maybe) others keep those idea's those concepts the IDEA of superman or spiderman or even Ironman and venom alive and in our minds.

My mom could not on a bet tell the difference between Babylon 5, Star Trek or Star Wars... BUT she would never guess B5, she would TRY to figure out if it was star trek or star wars... I even had her once call star gate star trek. She ALSO calls Vampire and TORG "D&D"

if you help make the IP itself good and in minds eyes (by running or talking about it) you are helping keep D&D as a property valuable.