Goliath Greatweapon Prowess

[Kzach]

Is this feat worth taking at all? If so, what's the best weapon to use with it?

Am I crazy in thinking that the falchion would actually be a good weapon with this feat? Or would greatsword still out-rank it?

 

[eamon]

Is this feat worth taking at all? If so, what's the best weapon to use with it?

Am I crazy in thinking that the falchion would actually be a good weapon with this feat? Or would greatsword still out-rank it?

The falchion and greatsword are approximately balanced regardless of this feat. The greatsword will be slightly better if you attack with multi-[W] powers, whereas the high-critness makes more difference in higher tiers, particularly if you have an expanded crit range.

If you have a 1[W] heroic/paragon powerthat hits 55% of the time and a crit at just 20, both the falchion and the greatsword deal exactly equal amounts of damage.

 

[keterys]

It's very useful for saving a feat slot until you have nothing better to take, or if you aren't using certain weapons (fullblade, greatspear). It's most useful with hammers and axes, as the fullblade is a bigger jump over the greatsword/falchion than the executioner's axe and mordenkrad are over their counterparts.

 

[mneme]

This, of course, ignores the cheesy silliness of taking it as, say, a goliath warlock (vestage or infernal -- and then grabbing arcane implement proficiency at 2nd level).

 

[mneme]

There is, however, the fun question for the paragon goliathlock whether you can go staff with staff fighting and manage to get both the bonus from GWP (using a two-handed weapons) and dual implement spellcaster (using one implement in each hand), for a damage bonus of con + weapon + weapon + 3 + Item bonus (staff of ruin, probably, maybe with bracers to up your eldritch strike if you haven't retrained it when you switched to staff)

 

[DracoSuave]

There is, however, the fun question for the paragon goliathlock whether you can go staff with staff fighting and manage to get both the bonus from GWP (using a two-handed weapons) and dual implement spellcaster (using one implement in each hand), for a damage bonus of con + weapon + weapon + 3 + Item bonus (staff of ruin, probably, maybe with bracers to up your eldritch strike if you haven't retrained it when you switched to staff)

Yes.

And Eldritch Strike sucks. Use the gloves that improve basic ranged attacks and use Eldritch Blast like a pro. It's a total of 4 points of damage difference, nothing trivial.

 

[keterys]

Eldritch Strike is usable on charges and opportunity attacks and warlord freebies, slides, and targets another defense. There are a number of good things about it - especially for an infernalock who can do a _lot_ more damage with triggered hellish rebukes.

Radiant Weapon is a nice choice for such a goliath, as an interesting alternative to Ruin or whatever.

 

[Mengu]

I find that Goliath Greatweapon Prowess is very handy for a Battle Cleric, and among other reasons, makes Goliaths my favorite race for the Battle Cleric. It's probably the only build I ever made that uses a greatsword.

 

[mneme]

Eldritch Strike: It does more damage than eldritch blast, hits a different defense, slides things, works better with leaders, and you already have a ranged attack in the form of your other at will. And doesn't burn a feat, and can do pretty silly damage (for a Goliath Warlock) at level 1). So better all 'round, really.

keterys: *nod* on radiant weapon--though without Student of Caiphon(wrong pact), it basically means you're concentrating more on your Eldritch Strike (as you get to keep using a greatsword or falchion, rather than devolving to staff damage/proficiency), and avoids having to have painful starting 12s in Wis and Dex (hurting your reflex and AC, though Staff Fighting helps a bit there). But I'm not sure you can pump up your Implement damage to the point where it competes with DWP/Ruin levels. It would be nice if the melee-ish warlock had a bit more support, really; there are great dailies like Armor of Agathys, and a few close blasts, and Infernal "revenge" abilities, but beyond that? Nada.

edit: Oh, right, syberias shard of radiance. Ok, yeah, even without Caiphon or vulnerability tricks, that brings radiant weapons back into parity nicely.

 

[chitzk0i]

If you want to use a halberd or glaive, GGWP is awesome. Goliath fighter using a halberd with weaponmaster's strike says mmm-mm, tasty OAs on shifting.