Goodaligned Necromancers

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

If both energies are neutral why do evil casters harm (-nrg) and good casters heal (+nrg)?

Because it's easier for them to do so. The Dark Side of the Force isn't really Evil, in and of itself, but Evil people find it easier to use.

 

[interwyrm]

Using positive energy is good because healing is good.
Using negative energy is evil because hurting things is evil.
Therefore, smacking something with a sword is also evil.

 

[ThirdWizard]

All undead are evil.

Creating an evil creature is evil.

Creating undead is evil.

 

[IcyCool]

Using positive energy is good because healing is good.
Using negative energy is evil because hurting things is evil.
Therefore, smacking something with a sword is also evil.

Was there a rules quote you have to back this up?

 

[IcyCool]

All undead are evil.

Creating an evil creature is evil.

Creating undead is evil.

I believe Forgotten Realms has a type of undead that isn't evil, doesn't it?

Now ask yourself why mindless undead are evil, or the creation of undead is evil. Keep in mind that negative energy isn't evil.

Round and round we go, wheee!

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

I believe Forgotten Realms has a type of undead that isn't evil, doesn't it?

Well, the MM has undead that aren't Evil - like Ghosts.

However, the FR undead you're thinking of - baelnorn (elven liches) and archliches - are more appropriately of the Deathless type. They were Deathless before Eberron came around and formalized the rules on Deathless.

 

[interwyrm]

Was there a rules quote you have to back this up?

No.

It was an expression of my irritation at negative energy being evil.
Also, I don't think creating unintelligent undead should be evil. What's a body when it's dead. It's a piece of meat. It's nothing. Zombies and skeletons are just 'animated'. I think intelligent undead involves some kind of corruption of the soul which justifies the evil label.

I never wanted to play a good necro, but a neutral one yeah.

 

[ThirdWizard]

Now ask yourself why mindless undead are evil, or the creation of undead is evil. Keep in mind that negative energy isn't evil.

That's easy: because the Alignment descriptor says so.

Well, the MM has undead that aren't Evil - like Ghosts.

Are any of the spells that make undead with the [Evil] descriptor capable of making ghosts? If yes, then that confuses the issue; if no, then it might be conjectured that a theoretical spell that makes ghosts would not be [Evil].

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Are any of the spells that make undead with the [Evil] descriptor capable of making ghosts? If yes, then that confuses the issue; if no, then it might be conjectured that a theoretical spell that makes ghosts would not be [Evil].

Neither Create Undead nor Greater Create Undead have ghost as an option, and both of them have the [Evil] descriptor.

Ghosts appear to be mostly self-created undead.

 

[IcyCool]

That's easy: because the Alignment descriptor says so.

Well, yes. The RAW says so. Hence my first post in this thread