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[GP] A Game of Politics

I rather do this pubicly in a courtroom. Because if they agreed he will be put into custody and we can have good investigation and present the evidence. Because it would look bad if we decided to accuse an innocent. And that would really strenghten their cause.
Of course we can always mention this in public but don`t call any names.
 

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"So your plan, Sarrom, is to stave off acting against someone who shows every sign of not wishing to come to an acceptable deal with us, until he comes to an acceptable deal with us." The Deacon sighs. "Brilliant. Why do we not simply hand ourselves over to Kalur, along with the North, and whatever else they want?"
 

"I stand with Deacon Fevre," Seguith announces. "Our plan relies on catching Lukar off-guard before those he claims to represent. If his true loyalties lie with his fellows, he will be willing to submit to the will of the courts for the good of his people. If he is a traitorous instigator of rebellion, he will hesitate and haggle; showing his lack of concern for the dwarves of Tarsur. But if we do this behind closed doors, his people will see only our settlement, and not any evidence of his treachery. We must conduct this meeting before the people."
 

Ringmereth said:
"I stand with Deacon Fevre," Seguith announces. "Our plan relies on catching Lukar off-guard before those he claims to represent. If his true loyalties lie with his fellows, he will be willing to submit to the will of the courts for the good of his people. If he is a traitorous instigator of rebellion, he will hesitate and haggle; showing his lack of concern for the dwarves of Tarsur. But if we do this behind closed doors, his people will see only our settlement, and not any evidence of his treachery. We must conduct this meeting before the people."
Smiling warmly to Seguith "I agree also, yet again I bow to the wisdom of Orr in this" Julius then makes the circle of Orr with his right hand.
 

Quinn, nods in agreement when Sarrom discusses the overall plan, but says "I agree with the deacon on that point." when Sarrom mentions 'I rather do this pubicly in a courtroom.....'
 

What if Lukarn says: Proof it. Proof that i am the traitor. Which we can`t do at this moment. Because we don`t have a solid piece of evidence agianst him personally. We only have a vague report that there maybe is a spy and our own opinions. If we are to do this we need stronger proof.
 

Twinswords said:
What if Lukarn says: Proof it. Proof that i am the traitor. Which we can`t do at this moment. Because we don`t have a solid piece of evidence agianst him personally. We only have a vague report that there maybe is a spy and our own opinions. If we are to do this we need stronger proof.

Nodding his head like a bobble head doll, "And that is why I say do it privately. In public to defend his honor, he would have to deny it and ask for proof to save face."
 

"When he has said it, he will also have again rejected a peace offer that gives his followers all that they desire, and probably done so to publicly save his skin," notes the Deacon. "I think that will cause his fellow dwarfs to question his motives. At that moment, we must play upon their emotions, make ourselves be seen as their true friend and Lukar to be seen as their hidden enemy." He waves his hand. "I do not deny there's a risk involved Sarrom--but with the situation as it is, we must gamble, or we will lose all. I hope to make our sincerity so obvious, our case so eloquent, the dwarfs will listen to us. But once again, it is a gamble. And if Lukar surprises me by accepting our offer, then we can do as you say, bring the matter up in a courtroom. But I suspect he won't. We've surprised him, I think by taking a position of principled strength. He was expected either high-handed demands, or craven boot-licking. The second would have been to his liking, the first would have let him play the hero. But to what we have done, he can only squirm and reject fair deals while attempting to convince his followers that he is being wise." Anguis shakes his head, smiling. "That poor man. We've really put him in a bad spot..."
 

Twinswords said:
Well this was my proposal. Why not keep this.

The captain and other misbehaving miscreants will be arrested and put on trail. There will be 3 judges. And atleast one of those will be dwarven. In exchange for this the dwarven leaders wil submit themselves to the same court and offcourse if they gave themselves up willingly they will be shown lentient.

In exchange for a peaceful solution of this rebelion and release of the hostages. There will be given food for the hungry and a recommendation of this commision to the govenment of Farseer to deliver more race equal benefits laws and the forming of a commitee of equal racial opertunities. Also a sum of 10000 goldpieces wil be given to repair and renovate the neighbourhood.

For judges i would like to see a judge from house leo. As they have a reputation of seeking justice, a suitable neutral dwarf, as reprentative for the dwarves and a person from Corona Austrina as a symbol of the people of farnese and it`s new democratie.

Any comments?

"I have no objections, except a reminder that 5000 gold is all the money we have at our immediate disposal. If we wish to offer them more we will either have to take it out of our own pockets or petition the Council for additional funds. But I don't think either option is advisable."
"As for the composition of the court, your suggestion is as good a choice as any. House Leo, representing the conservative interests of Farnese. House Corona, representing the populous. And a suitably neutral Dwarf, to lend the court a greater sense of legitimacy in the eyes of the dwarven population. Yes, it does seem fairly balanced, without being encumbered with too many voices all clamouring to be heard."


Rhialto said:
. "The question is are we to denounce Lukar publically, as I intended, or privately, as Mr. Quinn suggests." He glances around at his fellow commitee members. "Once again, I think this comes to a vote. And before we do--may I take a moment for a brief prayer?"

Alessa bows her head, observing the forms of the prayer while her mind dwells on other matters. When the ritual is finished she speaks.

"Personally, I would feel safer if the negotiations were conducted under the sun. It is not impossible that the Dwarves would attempt to take more valuable hostages if we gave them the opportunity. We can not know how much influence Lukarn has on his people, and he might grow desperate enough if we continue to put pressure on him."

"It also seems clear to me that, though we have to be able to offer concrete evidence if we are to convict him of treason in a court, we do not need more than what we already know to sow the seeds of doubt amongst his followers. Even the suspicion might be enough for many of them to take the easy way out while at the same time allowing them to save face and keep a notion of personal honour. Most of them surely only need the flimsiest excuse to return to their homes and families, and our offered compensation will allow them to rebuild their lives."

Ranger Rick said:
Nodding his head like a bobble head doll, "And that is why I say do it privately. In public to defend his honor, he would have to deny it and ask for proof to save face."

"As he would do in private. But in public he would have less room to maneuver, fewer options to make that wouldn't confirm our accusations to his followers. Even if most of them continue to believe in him it would still divide and weaken the rebellion."
 
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Rhialto said:
"...we must gamble, or we will lose all...it is a gamble...."

"Deacon I never realized you where such a gambler, but I see your cunning ways have pushed the dice into your favor, I will accept a public meeting, but who do you gamble on to speak with a golden tongue to the dwarves?"
 

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