[GUIDE] The Sorlock – Guide to the tormented divine soul with Xanathar's Divine Soul(17)+Hexblade(3)

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[GUIDE] The Sorlock – Guide to the tormented divine soul with Xanathar's Divine Soul(17)+Hexblade(3)

Why the Sorlock?
  • Combining sorcerer and warlock is one of the most powerful builds in the game when it comes to direct damage thanks to the wonders of eldritch blast.
  • You primarily excel at boss damage by having one of the highest single target average damage per round (aDPR).
This optimized build is using Hexblade Warlock and Divine Soul Sorcerer, Shadow Sorcerer is also competitive with Divine Soul.
This is not a beginner guide and I have no intention of including the basics of either the warlock or the sorcerer. Plenty of other guides do a fantastic job of this already.

Pros

  • High AC 20-26 + Shield Spell
  • Amazing single target boss damage | 8d10+8d6+88 | 160aDPR (One target per short rest)
  • 4 Sorcerer points per short rest at level 8 you know the level 20 sorcerer ability?
  • Amazing Utility through the Cleric Spell-list, Twinning Spells and Careful Hypnotic Patterns
  • The damage you do is only resisted by two official enemies (See Cons)
Cons
  • Rakshasa & Helmed Horror are not your friends.
  • You sufferer disadvantage on eldritch blast when enemies are in melee range of you.
  • You are extremely effective vs bosses and hordes but fairly average vs a multitude of competent enemies.
  • Converting spell-slots to sorcerer points is a bonus action. (Best done outside combat)
  • As far as min-max builds go, this is a build that scales throughout the game but is weaker than Great Weapon Master / Sharpshooter builds in early levels.
DM Notes
  • ENWorld threads often treat feats and multi-classing as universal however,
  • Feats are an optional rule
  • Multi-classing is an optional rule
  • Monsters are not balanced around multi-classing & feats which make characters significantly stronger, if everyone is on board for this that's fine but be aware. Keep in mind that a GWM+PAM dice-rolled fighter can be doing 40/80 more damage per round than the rest of your party if the rest don't also take advantage of feats and multi-classing.
  • Roleplaying with 4 players who all dip into Hex-blade can be tiresome. This is also true for the plate wearing fighter who sits in the back with a handcrossbow. There is merit to nerfing hex-blade,CBX,GWM,SS.
Color Coding the Guide
Godlike - Close to Mandatory
Great - Great Choice
Average - Not bad or Situational
Bad - Bad.

Ability Scores
I personally use dice rolled stats but if you use point buy

Strength 8
Dexterity 15
Constitution 13
Intelligence 8
Wisdom 12
Charisma 15
or
Strength 8
Dexterity 13
Constitution 15
Intelligence 8
Wisdom 12
Charisma 15

Charisma is your spell-casting modifier for both classes - vital.
Constitution,Dexterity and Wisdom are the most common spell saves.
Intelligence and Strength are the least common spell saves.
You want 14 or 16 Dexterity for the +2 or +3 to Armor Bonus
Constitution is to maintain concentration and is a common spell save
Wisdom is a common save and governs perception.


Races

Half Elf (Drow)- There is really no point considering anything else +2Cha and access to the Elven Accuracy Feat, +1 to two other stats.

Drow can give you Faerie Fire(The best spell in the game) & Darkness on long rest at a very annoying cost.
If you want to play another race, first ask yourself 'Does this race offer me triple advantage?' if the answer is no, play half elf.

If Elven Accuracy is banned or you just don't want to be a half elf other good races include.

  • Aasimar (Protector, Fallen) Aasimar with innate resistance, a free cantrip, healing and flying with bonus damage is a great choice.
  • Tiefling Bonus spells is always nice.
  • Yuan-ti Pureblood Magic Resistance and Poison Immunity with additional spells is a bit ridiculious.
  • Changeling Fun abilities but not all that useful outside of conversation, you are not a rogue.

Skills

Perception- Arguably an essential skill for all characters.
Persuasion - Arguably an essential skill for all characters.
Stealth - Arguably an essential skill but only if stealth is used liberally in your games.
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Deception - Not as vital as Persuasion but has many uses
Intimidation - Not as vital as Persuasion or Deception but still useful
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Investigation - Even though you are bad at this, investigation is extremely valuable given it gives loot rolls and trap checks.
Arcana - Even though you are bad at this, sometimes you will be expected too take it as the spell caster in the group for it still.
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Acrobatics - Useful for escaping grapples however, misty step accomplishes the same job.
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Athletics
Slight of Hand
History
Nature
Religion
Animal Handling
Medicine
Survival
Build
Start Sorcerer
Starting Sorcerer gives us constitution saving throws, sub classes listed below.
Hexblade Warlock 2
Baleful Curse

The fundamental reason we pick Hexblade Warlock is for Baleful Curse

  • Critical on 19-20
  • Add proficiency bonus to damage rolls
  • Baleful Curse damage bonus works with each and every beam from eldritch blast.
Hex Warrior
The second reason Hexblade Warlock is incredibly stacked is for Hex Warrior which gives us medium armor and shields.
Eldritch Innvocations

Pick Agonizing Blast & Devil Sight/Repelling Blast

Devil Sight
Allows you to see through magical darkness meaning you can cast Darkness©and are heavily obscured to enemies effectively causing them to be blinded.

  • When casting spells you no longer have disadvantage when enemies are in melee range.
  • You cannot be targeted by spells and magical effects that require sight.
  • Attack Rolls against you are made at disadvantage.
  • You make attack rolls against enemies with advantage.

    Notes
  • Tremorsense, Blindsense and Truesight counteract this ability. All of these senses have a range limit you can often stay outside of.
  • Requires Concentration©
  • Your allies can not cast spells on you and are blinded just as your enemies are.
  • If you cast darkness on an object you hold that you can smother, covering the source of the darkness with an opaque object blocks the darkness.
  • If you go shadow sorcerer over divine sorcerer devil sight is useless, just take repelling blast.
Repelling Blast
Highly DM/Scenario dependent, if you are playing with a physical or digital map, repelling blast can be incredibly useful.

  • Knock enemies off ledges
  • Keep enemies away from you
  • Keep enemies away from your allies.
  • It only gets better the higher your level.
Hexblade Warlock 3 (Optional)

3 levels of warlock gives you.

  • 4 Sorcerer points per Short Rest (You know the sorcerer level 20 ability?) over the 2 Sorcerer points per Short Rest of Warlock 2
  • This works by converting the spell slots to sorcerer points, this is a bonus action.
Depending on how often you short rest, this is either a useless or very powerful ability. Which you can acquire by converting your warlock slots every-time you short rest.


Warlock 3 - Pact Boon
Pact of the Tome
Pact of the Tome is fairly useless to you, its when combined with the invocation Book of Ancient Secrets that makes it so interesting.
Book of Ancient Secrets gives you

  • 2 free level 1 ritual spells
  • Ability to prescribe every 1st and 2nd level ritual spell
Pact of the Blade
We are not a bladelock.

Pact of the Chain
Pact of the Chain is great for getting find familiar except you can get this through Pace of the Tome.
The reason to go Pact of the Chain is the two powerful invocations that are certainly worth consideration.

First you now have an Imp familiar.
AC13
10 Health
Can turn invisible permanently as an action
+5 to Stealth
Has Devil Sight built in
Can polymorph itself.

Additional your familiar can cast the help action, it only gives you advantage on one roll so does not synergise with eldritch blast / scorching ray.
Voice of the Chain Master

  • You can communicate telepathically with your familiar.
  • You can use all of your familiars sense while you are on the same plane of existence. Without requiring an action.
  • This means you can always see through its eyes, hear conversations, smell, touch.
  • You can also talk through its mouth.
The power of this invocation often goes unrealized, you now have multiple angles of sight on the battlefield, you cannot be blinded meaning you still have devil sight unless you and your familiar are both blinded. This is both hilarious and incredibly useful. Your familiar can simply fly above the battlefield, invisible, providing you with your second set of eyes.

Gift of the Ever-Living Ones

  • It can be hard to correctly value this invocation, everytime you are healed from any source, hexblade curse, hit dice, cleric/druid etc healing. You always heal the maximum amount (provided your familiar is alive)
In endurance based combat situations where you cannot always rest this invocation can be incredibly valuable.

If you have a cleric, when healing you he effectively get the grave cleric max healing ability for free, except all the time, at any health value.
Personally I think Voice of the Chain master is the better choice, immunity to blind and free devil sight is great. Max Healing is of course amazing but you are back-line and shouldn't often need it.



Picking your Sorcerer background.
There are two viable options to consider but I have included the others for the sake of completion.
Divine Soul
Divine Magic- Sacred Weapon, Bless, Healing Word, Twin Heal, Mass Healing, Revivify, Heroes Feast/Death Ward/Freedom of Movement, Holy Aura.
Favored by the Gods - Great to save against that clutch ability and on a short rest too.
Empowered Healing - Waste of sorcery points, unlikely to alter the battle in any meaningful way.
Angelic Form - Bonus Action Flying with no Cooldown or duration limit, fantastic.
Unearthly Recovery - 50% Heal as a Bonus Action is nothing to scoff at.
Shadow
Eyes of the Dark - Gain the famous Darkness/Devil Sight combo.
Strength of the Grave - Not a bad death save but by no means guaranteed.
Hound of Ill Omen - This straight up gives you the Heightened Spell Metamagic in the form of a ghostdog.
Shadow Walk - Use your bonus action to teleport between shadows, depends on your DM but is effectively a super misty step.
Umbral Form - Expensive, resistance is nice but with your low health its not all that useful, the main advantage it gives you is the ability to be inside objects making you untargetable.
Dragon
Draconic Resilience - Fairly useless given warlock gives you medium armor and shields however useful at early levels.
Elemental Affinity - The Primary reason you go dragon, add charisma to your fireballs.
Dragon Wings - Bonus Action Flying with no Cooldown or duration limit.
Storm
Wild Speaker - Learn Primordial
Tempestuous Magic - Escape Opportunity Attacks & Hover
Heart of the Storm - Resistance to Lightning and Thunder, Creatures within 10 feet take SorcerLevel/2 damage when you cast Lightning/Thunder Spells.
Storm Guide - Not very useful
Storm's Fury - Only once per round but still useful
Wild Magic
Wild Magic Surge - Depends on how your DM uses this. Hard to judge.
Tides of Chaos - Long Rest or Surge based, otherwise useful.
Bend Luck - Great use of reaction to save people from hardful affects or force a spell to land.
Controlled Chaos - Makes wild magic less random. Still hard to judge its usefulness.
For damage and self survival Shadow is king, it cannot be overstated how powerful eyes of the dark is, shadow walk is also a free misty step at the cost of a bonus action.
Keep in Mind Darkness is Concentration, and can be super annoying for your allies. It also costs you sorcerer points to cast.
For utility Divine Soul is hilarious and incredibly powerful. There are many cleric spells that change the game and twinning cleric spells is a quick way to frustrate your dm.
I.E Twinning Healing word to get two allies off death rolls, for six straight rounds.
One of the main gripes with divine soul is that you waste spell slots on healing/resurrecting allies if you can call that a downside.
My primary argument for divine soul is you are already efficient enough in combat to warrant building for utility.
Finally Eldritch Blast + Spiritual Weapon is a very respectable aDPR
Metamagic Choices
Quickened Spell - Duh
Twinned Spell- Twin Healing Word is great, Twin Haste, Twin Greater Invis, Twin Heal
Your remaining two choices are not as easy as most people think. Your third choice at level 13 will be one of the following 3.
Careful Spell - Careful spell is stronger than most people think it is but not as strong as some people think it is. Careful spell works on the initial spell cast allowing a successful save to any friendly creature you want. This combos amazingly with the spell Hypnotic Pattern. However it does not combo at all with the spell Web, the save from Web only activates on the creatures turn.
If you choose Careful Spell - Hypnotic Pattern, Reverse Gravity and Confusion are excellent choices
Heightened Spell - Disadvantage on the save to any of your spells. With a +5 Modifier vs your 19 Spell Save, disadvantage takes their roll from a 35% chance of success to a 12% chance of success. This is huge for save or suck spells. Choose one target only.
If you choose Heightened Spell - Banishment, Hold Monster, Hold Person, and Plane Shift are excellent choices
Keep in mind that shadow sorcerer effectively gets heightened spell for free at level 6.
Subtle Spell- Just like Careful Spell, Subtle Spell is also usually highly underrated but it depends on your campaign. If you are a mercenary company who just kills monsters than this has highly diminished use but if you have far more role-playing in your campaign subtle spell gains a plethora of uses outlined in this thread
Additionally Subtle spell prevents your abilities from being counterspelled, including your own counterspell.
Personally I would forgoe crowd control to other party members and chose heightened spell. If however, your team needs you for crowd control I would pick careful spell. Subtle spell is a lot of fun for roleplaying.
Extended Spell - Doubling spell duration can be useful but usually not.
Distant Spell - Doubling spell range can be useful but usually not.
Empowered Spell - Rerolling dice can result in increasing your damage but not usually worth spending your sorcerer points on.

ASI/Feats (4)
Lvl 6 | Elven Accuracy (+1 Cha)This ability is utterly crazy and completely mandatory the math is detailed below.
Lvl 11 | Charisma +2
LvL 15 |Warcaster Advantage on Con Saves and allows you to use a Magic Staff or Wand with your shield (See FAQ)
Lvl 19 | You have several options for your final feat.
Polearm Master What?? Polearm master allows you to make opportunity attacks when enemies come into reach, because you already have warcaster allowing you to cast spells on opprtunity attacks, polearm master starts to look attractive considering it works with staffs(staffs are quarterstaffs), you can eldritch blast+repelling blast boot them away 40ft for having the audacity to approach you!
Medium Armor Master If you choose 16 Dexterity this gives you+2AC. Upgrading to half-plate & No stealth disadvantage is great.
Crossbow Expert Alright let me explain, Crossbow expert allows you avoid the disadvantage on eldritch blast while in meele, read the sage advice for the crossbow expert feat, redundant if you are using devilsight/darkness or you are a shadow sorcerer.
Resilient(Dex) or (Wis) you cannot take both. or Shield Master (mini evasion), Anytime you can get better dex or wisdom saving throws is a good time.
Lucky Being able to re-roll that 1 on a crucial attack role or save against an ugly spell is amazing.
Spell Sniper The primary reason I would choose this feat is for the ability to ignore cover, if cover is a constant theme in your games this feat can be very important.

Whats the deal with Elven Accuracy?
When you are rolling 8 attacks in a round & critting on 19 & 20s advantage is king.
Look at the following

  • Your chance to roll a 19 or 20 goes from 10%, to 19% to 27.1%
  • Your chance to hit 16-20 on the dice roll goes from 20% to 31% to 48.8%
  • Your chance to hit vs 20AC with +11 to hit goes from 60% to 84% to 93.6%
  • Your chance to hit vs 25AC enemy with +11 to hit goes from 35% to 57.75% to 72.54%
  • Your chance to hit all 8 attacks vs 20AC enemy with +11 to hit goes from 1.7% to 24.8% to 58.9%
  • Your chance to hit all 8 attacks vs 25AC enemy with +11 to hit goes from 0.2% to 1.2% to 7.7%
At face value the 9.6% increase in hit chance might seem insignificant but when you add in the number of attacks you are doing per round it becomes paramount.
Additionally what many people don't seem to understand is that hit chance is the king of reliable damage per round. The difference between a success or a miss on attack roles is widely consider the most important stat to build in rpgs. Dungeons in Dragons is no different.
Equipment
Speaking optimally you would use Mage Armor until you can equal or beat its 16AC.
Breastplate + 2 into Halfplate +2(With Medium Armor Master Feat)
Shield +2
Keep in mind for most of the game you will sit on 18-20AC (Breastplate +0 to+2 and a Shield +0)
It is likely you wont go beyond a +2 Halfplate and +2 Shield meaning your final 24AC and 29AC with the Shield Spell
+3 Half-plate and +3 Shield brings you to 26AC and 31AC with the shield spell.
Armor Class is extremely valuable in 5E. If you are comfortable sitting at 16AC all game, that's up to you but I would highly advise against it..

Value of AC & Effective HP vs An Ancient White Dragon (CR20)
Here is some simple calculations for the value of Armor Class vs the auto attacks of an ancient white dragon.
With 165 HP vs +14 Chance to Hit of a AWD with 17 Average Damage

16AC =95% Chance to hit = 173 = 11 Hits
17AC =90% Chance to hit = 182 = 11 Hits
18AC =85% Chance to hit = 190 = 12 Hits
19AC =80% Chance to hit = 198 = 12 Hits
20AC =75% Chance to hit = 206 = 13 Hits
21AC =70% Chance to hit = 215 = 13 Hits
22AC =65% Chance to hit = 223 = 14 Hits
23AC =60% Chance to hit = 231 = 14 Hits
24AC =55% Chance to hit = 239 = 15 Hits
25AC =50% Chance to hit = 248 = 15 Hits
26AC =45% Chance to hit = 256 = 16 Hits
You do not get much higher than +14 Chance to hit and most creatures have a lower hit chance than +14. This makes Armor Class even more effective, taking an additional 1-6 attacks in combat before you even consider the shield spell makes you extremely formidable. Between your high AC, Absorb Elements, Shield, Misty Step, Mirror Image, Blink & Greater Invisibility your only real problem is the rest of your party surviving.

Items to seek
Staff of Swarming Insects The ability to cast insect plague or giant insect is meaningless, the reason you take this staff is for the amazing insect cloud buff which can be done a minimum of four times per day. This buff essentially gives you the darkness+devil-sight combo and it cannot be dispelled or counter-spelled. The only downside is the same as darkness which is its potential negative effect on your allies.
Staff of Power (+2AC, +2SpellHit, +2Saving Throws) or Wand of the Warmage +3 or Rod of the Pact Keeper +3
Ioun Stone of Mastery (Increasing proficiency bonus is bonkers)
Robe of the Archmage (+2Spell Save DC, +2Spell Save DC, +2Spell Save DC, Did I mention +2Spell Save DC?)

Spell Suggestions
® Reaction Spell
© Concentration Spell
Sorcerer Spells
C | Mage Hand, Minor Illusion, Message, Firebolt/Chill Touch/Shocking Grasp
1 | Absorb Elements®, Sleep(Early Game), Shield®
2 | Mirror Image, Scorching Ray, Web©, Misty Step, Invisibility©, Hold Person©, Suggestion©, Phantasmal Force©
3 | Fireball, Haste©, Blink, Hypnotic Pattern©, Counterspell®, Dispel Magic
4 | Polymorph©, Greater Invisibility©, Banishment©, Fly©, Slow©
5 | Hold Monster ©
6 |
7 | Reverse Gravity©
8 |
9 | Wish
Primarily utility and defensive spells on this list, Hypnotic Pattern is bonkers with Careful Spell, Twinning Haste or Polymorph or Greater Invisibility is invaluable. Fireball is your AOE damage.
Warlock Spells
C | Friends, Eldritch Blast | Tome C | Thaumaturgy, Prestidigitation, Spare the Dying
1 | Shield®(HB), Wrathful Smite(HB) Armor of Agathys, Hex©
2 | Mirror Image, Misty Step, Invisibility©, Hold Person©, Suggestion©
Here it is, Eldritch Blast. Hexblade gives you the immortal Shield Spell, Picking up Armor of Agaths and Hex at level 1 and at level 2 You can either expand your spell list or pick up misty step and mirror image to free up Sorcerer slots.
Cleric Spells - If Divine Soul
C | Toll the Dead,Sacred Flame, Guidance©
1 | Healing Word, Bless©, Cure Wounds
2 | Prayer of Healing, Spiritual Weapon, Lesser Restoration, Enhance Ability©
3 | Revivify, Mass Healing Word, Spirit Guardians©
4 | Death Ward, Freedom of Movement
5 | Mass Cure Wounds, Greater Restoration
6 | Heroes Feast, Heal, Word of Recall
7 | Conjure Celestial©, Plane Shift, Temple of the Gods, Divine Word, Regenerate, Resurrection
8 | Holy Aura©
9 |
Lots of good options from the cleric spell list. Heroes Feast, Death Ward and Freedom of Movement are crutch non-concentration buffs. Divine Word is interesting as a horde stopper. Holy aura does not give your party advantage, otherwise its very strong.
Concentration Spell Options
Most of the spells I have selected are concentration spells and they give you a wide variety of options. Keep in mind the limited number of slots you have to work with, given you can only use one of these at a time there is an immense opportunity cost. You need to make 8 attack rolls to quicken a max level eldritch blast. This makes bless or advantage or both invaluable.

  • Bless – Not better than advantage but still a useful buff (Math Below)
  • Haste (Twin) – Extra attack for two party members and +2AC to each party member.
  • Greater Invisibility (Twin) – Advantage to yourself and your rogue.
  • Polymorph - Save an Allies life by giving them the health of a T-Rex
  • Hex (Twin)– Extra 1d6 on All Eldritch Blast Beams. Great if you have high enough hit chance.
  • Conjure Celestial – Summon a Couatl and laugh.
  • Hold Person (Twin) – Advantage and Auto Critical
  • Hold Monster(Twin) – Advantage and Auto Critical
  • Suggestion (Twin) – One Save 8 Hour Disable..What???
  • Banishment – Save or Suck remove an enemy from the fight.
  • Reverse Gravity – Powerful Disable make sure to ask your DM if the enemies are on a flat surface :p
  • Web – Advantage on Attack Rolls, Dex Disadvantage, Amazing Fireball Combo.
  • Hypnotic Pattern (Careful Spell) – Incapacitates your enemies who have eyes.
  • Holy Aura 1000gp – Blind Fiends and Undead, Advantage on Saving Throws, Disadvantage on Enemy Attack Rolls

Concentration Priority
Concentration Priority is complicated, subjective and situational. It is also dependent on your party composition.
In general I would argue for;
Disabling Enemies > Polymorph > Group Advantage > Greater Invisibility (Twin)> Haste (Twin)> Hex
Disabling Enemies Crowd control is the king of situational advantage. When versing multiple powerful enemies priority should always be given to Hypnotic Pattern or Reverse Gravity.
Polymorph Extremely versatile spell, see an ally on 1hp? Transform him into a T-Rex from level eight which is essentially a massive heal. You can twin this if the situation requires it. There are better spells to disable enemies.
Group Advantage Drow Faerie Fire when successful gives your group advantage on every target in the area. You only get the one cast but if I was playing a druid or bard I would simply spam faerie fire and likely use every legendary resistance of the enemy.
Greater Invisibility Gives you and an ally or two allies advantage, activates sneak attack, gives all attacks against you and an ally or two allies disadvantage.
Haste Gives two allies an additional melee attack and increases their armor class by two each for one minute and advantage on dexterity saves.
Hex Simply increasing your damage. In combat the only slightly useful ability check disadvantage to give is strength or dex vs grapples.
I'm considering doing the math comparing a Lvl 20 Rogue & Lvl 20 Fighter + This Build + Lvl 20 Cleric as a base party for calculating optimal use as well as Bless but this will take some time.


Boss Damage Combinations
If you are able to get advantage without using your concentration, your ability to take down large single targets is unmatched. While an action surge GWM/SS will beat you for two rounds your sustained damage is simply absurd.
Because Hexblade Curse and Hex are both bonus actions it takes you three rounds to come online.
Level 8
Round 1, Eldritch Blast + Hexblade Curse for 2d10+14 for for 25 average damage before hit chance.
Round 2, Eldritch Blast + Hex for 2d10+2d6+14 for 32 average damage before hit chance.
Round 3, Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 4d10+4d6+28 for 64 aDPR before hit chance. (2 Sorcerer Points)
Round 4, Repeat 2x Eldritch Blast at the cost of 2 sorcerer points (one left).
Level 11
Round 1, Eldritch Blast + Hexblade Curse for 3d10+27 for for 43.5 average damage before hit chance.
Round 2, Eldritch Blast + Hex for 3d10+3d6+27 for 54 average damage before hit chance.
Round 3, Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 6d10+6d6+54 for 108 aDPR before hit chance. (2 Sorcerer Points)
Round 4,5,6 Repeat 2x Eldritch Blast at the cost of 2 sorcerer points per round.
Level 17
Round 1, Eldritch Blast + Hexblade Curse for 4d10+44 for for 66 average damage before hit chance.
Round 2, Eldritch Blast + Hex for 4d10+4d6+44 for 80 average damage before hit chance.
Round 3, Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 8d10+8d6+88 for 160 aDPR before hit chance. (2 Sorcerer Points)
When running out of spell slots and sorcerery points you can cast spiritual weapon at base or higher levels.
Eldritch Blast & Spiritual Weapon 2+Hex+Hexblade Curse for 4d10+1d8+5d6+55 for 99 aDPR before hit chance.
Eldritch Blast & Spiritual Weapon 4+Hex+Hexblade Curse for 4d10+2d8+5d6+55 for 103.5 aDPR before hit chance.
Eldritch Blast & Spiritual Weapon 6+Hex+Hexblade Curse for 4d10+3d8+5d6+55 for 108 aDPR before hit chance.
Eldritch Blast & Spiritual Weapon 8+Hex+Hexblade Curse for 4d10+4d8+5d6+55 for 112.50 aDPR before hit chance.
This increases your aDPR by 20-30 damage, Spirtual weapon is fantastic but it scales poorly, best to use low level spell slots.

Why is the damage so good?

Eldritch Blast at max level shoots four beams at your target.
Agonizing Blast lets each of these beams benefit from your Charisma bonus.
Hexblade Curse adds your profeciency bonus to each attack and it crits on a 19.
Hex adds another 1d6 to each beam.
Quicked Spell lets you do it all over again as a bonus action.
Keep in mind moving hex to another target is a bonus action and you cannot move your hexblade curse.
You can also expunge your spell slots for more sorcerer points and expunge your pact magic slots for 4 points per short rest.
If you are running out of slots, cast a high level spiritual weapon. Eldritch Blast + Spiritual Weapon with Hex is still great damage without using sorcerer points.
This has all been confirmed to work by the developers.


Scorching Ray over Eldritch Blast for immediate impact.


After discussion with Yunru on pages 5-6 of this thread I feel it worth mentioning the power of Hexblade Curse & Hex combined with Scorching Ray.
Very early on you could play a fire dragon sorcerer and add your charisma bonus to each ray thanks to elemental affinity. This was nerfed in an Errata to only effect the first beam of a spell.
Hexblade Curse allows you to once again add your Profeciency bonus to each and every beam of scorching ray which can pull impressive numbers when used with high level spell slots.
Additionally, scorching ray also works with hex allowing you to also add 1d6 to each and every ray.
Here is a level 13 comparison (Warlock 2, Sorcerer 11)
View the above link and click on summary, notice that scorching ray easily outperforms disintegrate at all levels.
There is a catch however,
If you cast a spell as a bonus action, you can only cast a cantrip as an action
This means that you cannot cast scorching ray the round you cast hex
but
You can quicken a scorching ray while casting eldritch blast for some disgusting numbers.
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Its up to you whether you think it is worthwhile burning the spellslots for scorching ray.

Up-casting Bestow Curse for additional shenanigans
After discussion with Voitan Rex, there is an additional level of absurdity you can achieve with the cleric spell Bestow Curse
Bestow Curse when cast at 5th level allows you to cast the spell without requiring concentration. It is save or suck giving you the ability to do an additional 1d8 damage on attacks.
So now our maximum damage is 8d10+8d8+8d6+88 for 196 adpr before hit chance
or
With scorching ray 9th level its 4d10+14d8+34d6+104 for 308 adpr before hit chance
Keep in mind, setting up for 3 rounds is already extreme, 4 rounds is absurd.

Hitting AC 20 with Eldritch Blast
Given your numerous attack rolls buffing your +hit items, bless and gaining advantage are all extremely useful. Your 160 average damage per round (aDPR) with Hex is reduced significantly depending on your hit chance.
With 1d20 + 11 your chance to hit AC20 is 60% for 96 aDPR
With bless its (1d20)+(1d4)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 72.5% for 116 aDPR
With advantage its (2d20)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 84% for 134 aDPR
With bless and advantage its (2d20)/2+(1d4)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 92.13% for 147 aDPR
With elven accuracy its (3d20)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 93.6% for 150 aDPR
With elven accuracy and bless its (3d20)+1d4+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 97.66% for 156 aDPR
Reference AnyDice (select atleast)

Keep in mind by the time you reach level 20 (which you probably wont) you should at a minimum be rocking +3 to spell attack rolls.
With 1d20 + 14 your chance to hit AC20 is 75% for 120 aDPR
With bless its (1d20)+(1d4)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 87.5% for 140 aDPR
With advantage its (2d20)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 93.75% for 150 aDPR
With bless and advantage its (2d20)/2+(1d4)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 98.13% for 157 aDPR
With elven accuracy its (3d20)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 98.44% for 157.5 aDPR
With elven accuracy and bless its (3d20)+1d4+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 99.69% for 159.54 aDPR
Reference AnyDice (select atleast)


Non-Boss Damage
You are significantly weaker in multi-target situations however your damage still rivals disintegrate's 75 aDPR. Keep in mind moving hex is chewing up you bonus action each time you do it.
Damage before considering your hit chance.
Level 8
Eldritch Blast for 2d10+8 for 19 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 4d10+16 for 38 aDPR
Eldritch Blast with Hex for 2d10+2d6+8 for 26 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast with Hex for 4d10+4d6+16 for 52 aDPR
Level 11
Eldritch Blast for 3d10+15 for 31.5 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 6d10+30 for 63 aDPR
Eldritch Blast with Hex for 3d10+3d6+15 for 42 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast with Hex for 6d10+6d6+30 for 84 aDPR
Level 17
Eldritch Blast for 4d10+20 for 42 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 8d10+40 for 84 aDPR
Eldritch Blast with Hex for 4d10+4d6+20 for 56 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast with Hex for 8d10+8d6+40 for 112 aDPR
A level 8 fighter sharpshooter or great weapon master can be easily doing 40-55 average damage with the -5 to hit which is competitive with your damage.
A level 11 fighter sharpshooter or great weapon master can be easily doing 66-74 average damage with the -5 to hit which is competitive with your damage.
Hex vs Advantage at AC 20 with +11 to Hit
Finally if we are unable to obtain Advantage and/or Bless from our party, we must choose where to spend our concentration. Either the increased damage from Hex or Advantage.
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 8d10+40 at 60% Chance to Hit for 50 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast + Hex for 8d10+8d6+40 at 60% Chance to Hit for 67.2 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast + Advantage for 8d10+40 at 84% Chance to Hit for 71 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast + Elven Accuracy for 8d10+40 at 93.6% Chance to Hit for 78 aDPR

Advantage is superior to the bonus damage of Hex vs High AC, however the greater your base hit chance the smaller this bonus is until hex becomes better.
Hex vs Advantage at AC 15 with +11 to Hit
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast for 8d10+40 at 85% Chance to Hit for 50 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast + Hex for 8d10+8d6+40 at 85% Chance to Hit for 95 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast + Advantage for 8d10+40 at 97.75% Chance to Hit for 82 aDPR
Quicken 2x Eldritch Blast + Elven Accuracy for 8d10+40 at 99.20% Chance to Hit for 83 aDPR

The sweet spot between choosing Hex vs Advantage seems to be anytime you are above a 75% Chance to hit, choose hex.
However, keep in mind that advantage offers increased critical strike chance, your critical strike chance goes from 5% to 14.26% (no hexblade curse), because of the separate attack rolls critical hits are only 1d10 additional damage per strike but that is not insignificant.

FAQ

Why Sorcerer 17, Warlock 3 over Warlock 2, Sorcerer 18???

Sorcerer 18
1 Level 6 Spell
Devil Sight (Combines with Darkness which is still absurdly powerful (But not for your allies)) or Repelling Blast to knock back one enemy eighty feet or eight enemies ten feet.
Level 18 Sorcerer Ability
Warlock 3
2 More Sorcerer points per short rest. (This gives you your 20th level ability Sorcerous Restoration at level 8)
Ritualsor Super Imp- Gives you a wide amount of utility.
Choice is yours but personally I'd pick Warlock 3 every time.
What is it with you and faerie fire?
As a 1st Level Spell, Faerie Fire is the strongest spell in the entire game (healing word is arguably also competitive with ff for the top slot)
Why? Group advantage is incredibly powerful. The increased damage output to your entire party is simply unmatched.
Most of my time playing as a druid would result in casting faerie fire until the DM ran out of legendary reactions.
Look at the math above on Advantage, if you and 3-4 other allies have advantage that can easily equal an additional 100 extra DPR at max level. Variance is the death of a party and advantage goes a long way in curbing it.
Why do you keep mentioning healing word?
TLDR: Because of the nature of death saves, when taking lethal damage of any amount below your Max HP, healing words ability to revive from range is extremely strong.
If the enemy does 40 damage per round, healing 1 hp or 39 hp makes no difference.

Why not 2 levels in fighter for action surge?

You already get con saves and armor by starting sorcerer and picking up Hexblade. Double fireball or scorching ray is really nice but...
Action Surge does not give you an additional bonus action.
You also lose out on high level spell slots.
I think the cost is simply too high and the spell slot reduction and delay too long for action surge to be worth it.

Where are all the aoe spells?

This build is primarily about single target damage and especially boss damage. I build for utility over aoe damage. Fireball is also fantastic in almost every situation and otherwise Hypnotic Pattern usually works extremely well.

Why would you quicken eldritch blast when you can quicken two fireballs?
You cannot quicken two fireballs, quickening spells allows you to cast one spell of any level as a bonus action and one cantrip as your action.

Hey! You cannot cast spells with a shield, you need warcaster!

Well this is highly debated, I recommend viewing this link The Rules of Spellcasting | Dungeons & Dragons and reading page 203 of the player hand book. Essentially having a hand for a component pouch or arcane orb counts as a free hand for somatic components. If you want to wield a wand or staff with a shield you must have warcaster.

Please let me know if you think I miss some vital spells or have some ideas for improvement.

Sample Build Paths
Divine Soul Sorcerer 5 - Warlock 3 - Sorcerer 17
Going five levels in sorcerer gives you the fastest route to Fireball.
L1 | +Guidance +Sacred Flame +Toll The Dead +Mage Hand | +Mage Armor +Sleep | Sorcerer 1 – Divine Soul
L2 | +Healing Word | Sorcerer 2
L3 | +Spirtual Weapon | Sorcerer 3 & Quicken + Twin Spell Metamagic
L4 | +Minor Illusion | +Invisibility | Sorcerer 4 & +2 Charisma ASI
L5 | +Fireball -Sleep +Haste | Sorcerer 5
L6 | +Eldritch Blast +Friends | +Shield +Hex | Warlock 1 - Hexblade
L7 | +Devil Sight +Agonizing Blast | +Hellish Rebuke | Warlock 2
L8 | +Book of Ancient Secrets -Devil Sight | -Hellish Rebuke +Mirror Image +Misty Step | +Spare the Dying +Thaumaturgy +Prestidigitation | Warlock 3 - Pact of the Tome
L9 | +Revivify | Sorcerer 6
L10 | +Message | -Mage Armor +Scorching Ray +Greater Invisibility | Sorcerer 7
L11 | +Polymorph | Sorcerer 8 & Elven Accuracy Feat
L12 | +Blink | Sorcerer 9
L13 | +Counterspell | Sorcerer 10 | Metamagic Choice: Careful Spell
L14 | +Heal | Sorcerer 11
L15 | Sorcerer 12 & Warcaster Feat
L16 | +Conjure Celestial | Sorcerer 13
L17 | Sorcerer 14
L18 | +Reverse Gravity | Sorcerer 15
L19 | Sorcerer 16 & Medium Armor Master Feat
L20 | +Wish | Sorcerer 17 | Metamagic Choice: Heightened Spell

Sample Final Spells
Warlock
C | Eldritch Blast, Friends
B | Thaumaturgy, Prestidigitation, Spare the Dying
1 | Hex, Shield®
2 | Mirror Image, Misty Step
Sorcerer
C | Guidance, Mage Hand, Minor Illuson, Sacred Flame, Message, Toll the Dead
1 | Absorb Elements®, Healing Word
2 | Spiritual Weapon, Scorching Ray
3 | Revivify, Fireball, Haste©, Blink, Counterspell®
4 | Polymorph©, Greater Invisibility©
5 |
6 | Heal
7 | Conjure Celestial©, Reverse Gravity©
8 |
9 | Wish
Shadow Sorcerer 5 - Warlock 2 - Shadow Sorcerer 18
Going five levels in sorcerer gives you the fastest route to Fireball.
L1 | +Firebolt +Shocking Grasp +Dancing Lights +Mage Hand | +Mage Armor +Sleep | Sorcerer 1 – Shadow Sorcerer
L2 | +Absorb Elements | Sorcerer 2
L3 | +Misty Step | Sorcerer 3 & Quicken + Twin Spell Metamagic
L4 | +Minor Illusion | +Invisibility | Sorcerer 4 & +2 Charisma ASI
L5 | +Fireball -Sleep +Haste | Sorcerer 5
L6 | +Eldritch Blast +Toll the Dead | +Shield +Hex | Warlock 1 - Hexblade
L7 | +Repelling Blast +Agonizing Blast | +Hellish Rebuke | Warlock 2
L8 | +Blink | Sorcerer 6
L9 | +Message -Firebolt +Friends| -Mage Armor +Scorching Ray +Greater Invisibility | Sorcerer 7
L10 | +Polymorph -Invisibility +Counterspell| Sorcerer 8 & Elven Accuracy Feat
L11 | +Hold Monster | Sorcerer 9
L12 | +Slow | Sorcerer 10 | Metamagic Choice: Subtle Spell
L13 | +Reverse Gravity | Sorcerer 11
L14 |+Mirror Image | Sorcerer 12 & Warcaster Feat
L15 | +Invisibility | Sorcerer 13
L16 | Sorcerer 14
L17 | Sorcerer 15
L18 | Sorcerer 16 & Medium Armor Master Feat
L19 | +Wish | Sorcerer 17 | Metamagic Choice: Heightened Spell
L20 |

Sample Final Spells
Warlock
C | Eldritch Blast, Toll the Dead
1 | Hex, Shield®, Hellish Rebuke
Sorcerer
C | Mage Hand, Minor Illuson, Shocking Grasp, Message, Friends, Dancing Lights
1 | Absorb Elements®
2 | Misty Step, Mirror Image, Scorching Ray
3 | Fireball, Haste©, Blink, Counterspell®, Slow©
4 | Polymorph©, Greater Invisibility©
5 | Hold Monster©
6 |
7 | Reverse Gravity©
8 |
9 | Wish


Many spells that are not listed above might be required by your party.
Missing non-concentration buffs

  • Aid (Nice Max Health Boost)
  • Heroes Feast (Amazing Buff for 1000gp)
  • Freedom of Movement (Your allies can't get paralyzed or restrained, especially useful while flying)
  • Death Ward (Pop right back up on death which translates to straight up immunity from disintegrate,finger of death and power word kill death effects)
  • Warding Bond (Free Ring of Protection & Share your healthpool, smoothing out incoming damage)
Missing teleportation
  • Plane Shift
  • Teleportation Circle (1 Minute Casting Time)
  • Arcane Gate (Stays open for 10 Minutes)
  • Teleport
  • Word of Recall (Action only GTFO if you planned ahead)
Missing Utility
  • Dispel Magic
  • Disintegration (Dispels several effects dispel magic does not)
  • Hold Person/Monster
  • Banishment
  • Remove Curse/Restoration/Greater Restoration
  • AoE Healing (Mass Cure Wounds, Mass Healing Word, Mass Heal)
  • Fly
  • Home (Temple of the Gods)
 
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Obliza

Villager
Warlock Build Variant - Hexblade Warlock 14, Divine Sorcerer 6 or Hexblade Warlock 11 - Divine Soul 9
Many people have expressed interest in taking more levels in Warlock. The question you have to answer for this build is what hexblade abilities, invocations and warlock spells make it worthwhile?

How much does the sacrificed sorcerer points hurt?
The answer is, catastrophically, converting slots requires a bonus action meaning you only go 3 to 4 rounds before you must spend a bonus on converting.

Invocations
[Tome] Aspect of the Moon
Also known as 'Coffee Lock' this is the infamous primary reason to take warlock further, however per errata & sage advice it quite simply does not work. You still need long rests and you lose all created spell slots on long rests, you also cannot have more sorcery points than your sorcerer level maximum.
[Chain] Gift of the Ever-Living Ones
Explained above, brilliant invocation
[Chain] Voice of the Chain Master
Explained above, brilliant invocation
Eldritch Spear / Lance of Lethargy / Grasp of Hadar
All are simply not worth it, lance and grasp only activate once per turn, you are unlikely to ever be in a situation where eldritch spear makes a difference.
Maddening Hex
If you have nothing else worthwhile to do with a bonus action this is not terrible.
Relentless Hex
Fantastic for meele, bad for you.
Spells at Will
Few interesting spells here but nothing I would consider essential.
Spells per Long Rest
Everything here is a spell you could of gotten with more levels of sorcerer.
Tomb of Levistus
Fantastic, at the potential cost of a turn, saves your life.
Cloak of Flies
Good for meele, bad for you

Nothing else worth mentioning for combat, the [Chain] abilities are brilliant but alone they are not worth the additional 2 levels of investment.

Spells
Shadow of Moil
Upgraded version of Darkness+Devilsight, fantastic.
Hunger of Hadar
Great spell that blinds enemies with no save.

Hexblade Abilities
Accursed Spectre
Great little damage boost, nothing to write home about.
Armor of Hexes
This is the real breadwinner, 50% damage reduction in the long run (in otherwords every time you are hit, 50% of the time you turn it into a miss, beautiful)
Master of Hexes
Was amazing in the UA, then they nerfed it to just extension to other enemies. Not worth the investment.

Magical Secrets 6th and 7th

I am of the opinion that the spell list for Warlock at 6th, 7th and 8th level is terrible.​



Going to hexblade 10 for armor of hexes is attractive, worth going to 11 for the additional spell slot, 12 offers you the additional asi and invocation. Keep in mind you will be taking the later hexblade levels at level 18-20 as you must take the sorcerer levels first simply for the sorcerer points. This arguable makes it too late to be worth the investment.
You are also trading armor of hexes for wish and the convertible 6th, 7th and 8th level spell slots of the sorcerer not to mention the sorcerer abilities on offer.

At this time I cannot recommend additional warlock levels, the trade-offs are simply too great.

Basic By the Numbers
Sorcerer 5 > Warlock 3 > Sorcerer 17

LevelSpellDamageQuickenHexblade QuickenHexblade + Hex + QuickenComparison CBX+SS Fighter
1Firebolt1d100001d6+4
2Firebolt1d102d102d102d101d6+4
3Firebolt1d102d102d102d101d6+4
4Firebolt1d102d102d102d101d6+5 (+2 Dex)
5Firebolt2d104d104d104d102d6+10
6Eldritch Blast2d104d104d10+124d10+4d6+123d6+15 (CBX)
7Eldritch Blast2d10+104d10+204d10+324d10+4d6+323d6+15
8Eldritch Blast2d10+104d10+204d10+324d10+4d6+323d6+45 (SS)
9Eldritch Blast2d10+104d10+204d10+364d10+4d6+363d6+48 (+1 Weapon)
10Eldritch Blast2d10+104d10+204d10+364d10+4d6+363d6+48
11Eldritch Blast3d10+15 (31.5)6d10+30 (63)6d10+54 (87)6d10+6d6+54 (108)4d6+64 (78)
12Eldritch Blast3d10+156d10+306d10+546d10+6d6+544d6+64
13Eldritch Blast3d10+156d10+306d10+606d10+6d6+604d6+64
14Eldritch Blast3d10+156d10+306d10+606d10+6d6+604d6+68 (+2 Weapon)
15Eldritch Blast3d10+156d10+306d10+606d10+6d6+604d6+68
16Eldritch Blast3d10+156d10+306d10+606d10+6d6+604d6+68
17Eldritch Blast4d10+208d10+408d10+888d10+8d6+884d6+68
18Eldritch Blast4d10+208d10+408d10+888d10+8d6+884d6+72(+3 Weapon)
19Eldritch Blast4d10+208d10+408d10+888d10+8d6+884d6+72
20Eldritch Blast4d10+20 (42)8d10+40 (84)8d10+88 (132)8d10+8d6+88 (160)5d6+90(107.5)

Few comments asking for some sort of comparison with the current top DPR so I've added a comparison to; Hand crossbow+Crossbow Expert+Sharpshooter+Classless Fighter (Bow+Modifier+Sharpshooter+Weapon Bonus).

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It is hard to compete with great weapon master or sharpshooter builds but sorlock does a decent job while being a full caster with great defensive and control capabilities.

This is without considering
  • scorching ray
  • advantage / elven accuracy
  • increased hexblade crit chance
  • reduced sharpshooter hit chance
  • ammunition amount
  • magical ammunition
  • action surge
  • fighter class
  • fighter multiclass (hexblade, hex, hunters mark, magical weapons)
  • fighter buffs (haste)


This comparison could certainly be more in depth.

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Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
There's a procedural problem. In your sample you have Round 1 actions for hexblade curse and casting hex - that doesn't work. 5e doesn't let you "downgrade" actions - a bonus action is a distinct thing you either get or don't, but you can't take more than one a turn. So it's at least two rounds of bonus actions to get hex and hexblade's curse on a target. Now, you could be casting or firing 4 beams a turn on those, but the full 8 beams with both on target doesn't come until Round 3 - assuming they are still alive.

The 8d10+8d6+88 seems to be a nova burst, not actually sustained. Hexblade's curse is one target only and refreshes once per short rest. I mentioned the bonus actions to cast Hex/use the curse already, but you also need a bonus action to retarget hex if you kill your target. And, a new target won't have the hex damage until you have a chance to spend that bonus action, which might be several beams.

Anyway, ignoring the once-per-short rest of the Hexblade's Curse, 4 or 8 attacks with d10+d6+5 is nothing to sneeze about. 13 average per beam before chance to hit, and very likely likely to have advantage. Using the "standard" 65% chance to hit pre-advantage give ~88% chance to hit, so it's 52 or 104 damage based on if your bonus action is free. And a 19% chance to crit if you are using Hexblade's curse. If you are close to killing a foe you lose

That's a respectable amount of damage for a 20th level character though it takes a few rounds to come up to speed. Force damage is rarely resisted. Plus you have nice sorcerer casting. Playable.
 

Saurdaux

Visitor
Regarding the question of why you would twin Eldritch Blast instead of Fireball, I think you're getting Twinned Spell mixed up with Quickened Spell. Neither Eldritch Blast nor Fireball is eligible for Twinned Spell, since it requires a spell that only allows for a single target. With Quickened Spell, though, you could cast a Fireball as a bonus action.

While you still wouldn't be able to cast Fireball twice in one turn, what you could do is cast Quickened Fireball as a bonus action and Eldritch Blast as your action. As long as you have the spell slots to spare, that would often end up being better damage than Quickened Eldritch Blast, especially in an AoE situation.
 

gyor

Hero
You forgot Conjure Celestial, which in practice is the strongest conjure x spell in the game (discounting pixies) even at just CR4 and at higher level CR 5, because Coautls and unicorns like Celestials in general are filled with goodies.

A Coautl can turn into any beast or humanoid of CR 4 or lower gaining that forms abilities except for class features, lair actions, and legendary actions, has a poisonous bite that makes the target unconscious for 24 hours as long as no one shakes it awake, has telepathy 120', true sight 120', can fly 90', and can cast Detect Evil And Good (at will), Detect Magic (at will), Detect Thoughts (at will), Bless (3 times a day), Create Food And Water ( 3 times a day), Cure Wounds (3 times a day), Lesser Restoration (3 times a day), Protection From Poison (3 times a day), Sanctuary (3 times a day), Shield (3 times a day), Dream, Greater Restoration, Scrying.

For the price of 1 7the level spell you get a creature that can cast 24 spells not including the three spells it casts at will, a creature that can see through all illusions and telepathically tell you and knows every language so it can speak, read, and write any language, it can fly around spying on stuff.

It can also assume the form of any beast or humaniod of CR 4 or lower, which means it can act as a mount, a spy, use the innate magics and abilities of various races like Purebloods, Aasimar, Tieflings, Drow, Durgars, and others, it can explore any environment by taking the form of a creature that breaths water or doesn't have to breath at all (Air Genasi).

The utility of the Coautl is nearly endless. And that is before you can start summoning the Unicorn once you get ninth level slots, which has it's own awesome tricks.

Conjure Celestial is one of the most powerful spells the cleric has and the Divine Soul gets it and can use it better then the cleric because the divine soul can use extend spell on it. This is a gold level spell. It's concentration, but it's worth it.
 

Obliza

Villager
Yeah I often brush over conjure spells but damn that's bonkers. Any other spell recommendations from the Cleric List that I forgot Gyor?
 

gyor

Hero
Here is a list of forms the Coautl can take.

Frog
Sea HorseTiny
Baboon
Badger
Bat
Cat
Crab
Cranium Rat
Deer
Eagle
Giant Fire Beetle
Goat
Hawk
Hyena
Jackal
Lizard
Octopus
Owl
Quipper
Rat
Raven
Scorpion
Spider
Vulture
Weasel
Hawk
Camel
Dolphin
Flying Snake
Giant Crab
Giant Rat
Giant Weasel
Kobold
Mastiff
Merfolk
Mule
Poisonous Snake
Pony
Stirge
Xvart
Aarakocra
Axe Beak
Boar
Bullywug
Constrictor Snake
Cow
Rothe
Dimetrodon
Draft HorseLarge
DrowMedium
Giant Bat
Giant Centipede
Giant Frog
Giant Lizard
Giant Owl
Giant Poisonous Snake
Giant Wolf Spider
Goblin
Grimlock
Grung
Hadrosaurus
Kenku
Kobold Inventor
Panther
Pteranodon
Riding Horse
Rothe
Stench Kow
Troglodyte
Velociraptor
Winged Kobold
Wolf
Ape
Black Bear
Crocodile
Firenewt Warrior
Giant Goat
Giant Sea Horse
Giant Wasp
Gnoll
Gnoll Hunter
Hobgoblin
Jackalwere
Lizardfolk
Orc
Orc Nurtured One of Yurtrus
Reef Shark
Sahuagin
Svirfneblin
Warhorse
Brown Bear
Bugbear
Deinonychus
Dire Wolf
Duergar
Firenewt Warlock of Imix
Giant Eagle
Giant Hyena
Giant Octopus
Giant Spider
Giant Toad
Giant Vulture
Gnoll Flesh Gnawer
Goblin Boss
Grung Wildling
Kobold Dragonshield
Kobold Scale Sorcerer
Kuo-toa Whip
Nilbog
Sea Spawn
Thri-kreen
Tiger
Xvart Warlock of Raxivort
Yuan-ti Pureblood
Allosaurus
Aurochs
Cave Bear
Giant Boar
Giant Constrictor Snake
Giant Elk
Githzerai Monk
Gnoll Pack Lord
Grung Elite Warrior
Hobgoblin Iron Shadow
Hunter Shark
Lizardfolk Shaman
Orc Claw of Luthic
Orc Eye of Gruumsh
Orc Hand of Yurtrus
Orog
Plesiosaurus
Polar Bear
Quaggoth
Quetzalcoatlus
Rhinoceros
Saber-toothed Tiger
Sahuagin Priestess
Wererat
Yuan-ti Broodguard
Ankylosaurus
Bugbear Chief
Deep Scion
Giant Scorpion
Githyanki Warrior
Hobgoblin Captain
Killer Whale
Orc Red Fang of Shargaas
Quaggoth Thonot
Werewolf
Elephant
Hobgoblin Devastator
Lizard King/Queen
Orc Blade of Ilneval
Orc War Chief
Stegosaurus
Wereboar
Weretiger
Triton
Aasimar
Tiefling
Dragonborn
Wild Elf
Drow
High Elf
Hill Dwarf
Mountain Dwarf
Tabaxi
Firbolg
Goliath
Lightfoot Halfling
Stouteheart Halfling
Ghostwise Halfling
Half Elf
Human
Half Orc
Deep Gnome
Rock Gnome
Forest Gnome
 
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gyor

Hero
Yeah I often brush over conjure spells but damn that's bonkers. Any other spell recommendations from the Cleric List that I forgot Gyor?
Spirit Guardians, especially for a melee focused character is arguably better then fireball, especially with upcasting.

It does less damage in round one, but by round 2 or 3 the total damage is higher, it doesn't hit your allies so it's safer, and it rebuffs your enemies speed, it also lasts 10 minutes so it benefits from extend spell.

Also it has a larger radious then fireball, can nail reinforcements that your enemies can call in after you cast it, plus it looks damn cool.

Downside is it's concentration, but doing anywhere from 3d8 to 9d8 radiant damage (less likely to be resisted then fire) per round, cutting your enemies speed down by half 15' from your space is every direction is not bad.

It up grades better by using higher slots then fireball too, it gets +1D8 extra damage per round per target, vs. +1D6 per target.

So say your combat lasts 3 rounds

Using 3rd Level slot Fireball does 8d6 fire damage to enemies and allies.

Using a 3rd level slot Spirit Guardians does 3D8 x 3 rounds radiant damage = 9D8 and slows enemies, allies uneffected.

By 6th level slot fireball does 11d6 fire damage against enemies and allies.

By the 6th level slot Spirit Guardians does 6d8 x 3 = 18d8 radiant damage and slows enemies in its area.

9th slot level fireball does 14d6 fire damage to enemies and allies.

9th slot level Spirit Guardians does 9d8 x 3 = 27d8 radiant damage to enemies, slows enemies in its area, and doesn't damage allies you choose for it not to damage.

And all that is assuming 3 combat rounds max. End up with 10 rounds of combat and for example the 9th level Spirit Guardians does 9d8 x 10 rounds = 90d8 radiant damage, slows enemies in its area, and doesn't allies, and looks damage cool as fey or celestial spirits flitter around you. Nevermind 9th slot Fireball, Metorite can suck it.

Imagine a 9th level Extended Empowered Spirit Guardians.
 

gyor

Hero
True Resurrection has it's obvious use, but unless an allies body gets completely destroyed, it's usually over kill, when revify will usually get the job done for party, members.

But I figures out a clever use for True Resurrection and that is as a summoning spell for beings whose bodies have been destroyed.

Use History, Religion, Arcana skill to figure out the names of powerful good creatures who would like to be restored to life, but who never left a body, say Ancient Gold Dragons, a Solar who died on it's plane of existence, etc...

Then when in battle against the big bad, cast twinned True Resurrection and bring down two bad ass ancient monsters or beloved heroes back to life in the middle of your battle.
 

gyor

Hero
The Aid combo with Unearthly Recovery. The amount of damage Unearthly recovery heals is based on your maxim hit points, both Aid and Heroes Feast boost maxim HPs.
 

gyor

Hero
In XGTE is a spell called Temple if the Gods.

It creates a Temple dedicated to whatever the Holy Symbol used in the spell symbolizing, a God, Philosophy, Pantheon, something weirder whatever.

It's huge it says 120' feet on ever side, which ends up being 14,400 square feet of space. It's empty except for an altar or statue at the far end, but you control the appearance of the floors, walls, and ceiling, so you can shape the floor to provide benches, beds, ect...

No one you don't designate when casting the spell can open or close the door, any type of creature you choose from Fey, Fiends, Celestials, Elementals, Undead have to make Charisma check to enter and are penalized while in the Temple.

Divination spells and sensors do not work on those in the Temple.

Healing spells are boosted by Temples creator's Wisdom mod (should be spell casting stat imo).

Temple is immune to dispel and Antimagic Fields.

Its made out of opaque force (so it's like a giant Star Trek hologram) so it extends into the Ethereal Plane, when means Succubi can't sneak in from that direction.

It can be destroyed by a disengration spell.

Casting it everyday in the same spot for a year makes it permanent.

Still it makes a great religious fortress for a Divine Soul.

Not a combat spell, unless one is very creative in its use, but as far as none combat spells this rocks.
 
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gyor

Hero
Holy Weapon, 5th level spell, another spell for the Cleric (and Paladin) in XGTE.

Touch a weapon and it deals 2d8 radiant damage, but the caster can dismiss it early to create a blast of radiant damage to all enemies in an area.

This is cool enough, but I realized it could cast on seige weapons, like a catapult, for more fun.

Cast it on the fighters weapon, who does an action surge 2, rounds in a row 6 attacks deals 12d8 radiant damage, not including OA, which if the fighter is a Cavalier can be unlimited.
 

mellored

Explorer
Holy Weapon, 5th level spell, another spell for the Cleric (and Paladin) in XGTE.

Touch a weapon and it deals 2d8 radiant damage, but the caster can dismiss it early to create a blast of radiant damage to all enemies in an area.

This is cool enough, but I realized it could cast on seige weapons, like a catapult, for more fun.

Cast it on the fighters weapon, who does an action surge 2, rounds in a row 6 attacks deals 12d8 radiant damage, not including OA, which if the fighter is a Cavalier can be unlimited.
Is it better than elemental weapon (which can also work on catapults).

Holy Weapon
60% * 3d8+5 =11.1 (+ending burst)
60% * 2d6+2d8+5 = 12.6
35% * 2d6+2d8+15 = 10.85
45% * 1d8+2d8+15 = 12.825

Elemental Weapon (level 5)
70% * 1d8+2d4+5 = 10.15
70% * 2d6+2d4+5 = 11.9
45% * 2d6+2d4+15 = 12.15
55% * 1d8+2d4+15 = 13.475


So Holy weapon is slightly better, unless your using great weapon master or sharp shooter. Then elemental weapons to-hit bonus helps more.
 

SaintRas

Visitor
I really like this build, but your to-hit calculations for advantage are incorrect.
You write: "With advantage its (2d20/2)+11 your chance to hit AC20 is 66% for 106 aDPR"
It looks like you are taking the average of 2 d20's to account for advantage, but advantage lets you roll 2 d20 and take the higher number. An easy way to calculate your chance to hit with advantage is finding out what your chance to miss with both d20's is, and subtracting that from 1.
With the 60% to-hit on AC 20 with a +11 bonus, your chance to hit with advantage is actually 1-0.4^2 = 84%, much higher than the 66% you found. This probably makes Darkness much better than you give it credit for, especially if you start with 17 Dex (15+2 from Half-Elf), you can take the Elven Accuracy feat at level 6, bringing your Charisma to 18 and granting tri-vantage. Your chance to hit AC 20 with a +11 bonus and tri-vantage is 93.6%.


Also, under Concentration options you suggest Faerie Fire, how would you get access to that spell? Isn't it only available to Druids and Bards?
 

Obliza

Villager
1-0.4^2 = 84%
1-0.4^3 = 93.6%
Damn! You are entirely correct! Given my study of mathematics this is rather embarrassing...Thankyou!

Also, under Concentration options you suggest Faerie Fire, how would you get access to that spell? Isn't it only available to Druids and Bards?
You are correct, I currently play a Half-Elf Drow. Drow get access Drow Magic gives you Dancing Lights, Faerie Fire and Darkness.

To me getting extra spells per long rest is huge as a sorcerer and Faerie Fire or otherwise known as single save group advantage is bonkers to me. The spell is amazing.
 

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