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[jian]

Ok, since you asked so nicely and without obvious sarcasm. You must lead a really insular life if you have never heard someone make a religious argument on the topic (and no, religion isn't inherently political). I personally know someone who is anti-trans and makes what he feels are scientific arguments based on the remarks of a well known evolutionary biologist, Richard Dawkins. Neither are political arguments, which is not the same as saying they may have political ramifications.

And once again, I don't buy into their positions and I am not anti-trans. However, this conversation is going nowhere so I am bowing out.

Sadly, both of those are distinctly political arguments in the sense that they indicate alignment with specific political groups and ideas, and political interpretations of religion and biology. The biological argument is especially incorrect - there have never been just two biological genders, and about 5% of people (more people than are blonde) have sex chromosome abnormalities which they mostly don’t know about but would bar them from being just XX or XY.

I suppose that means that the biological and scientific arguments for trans people are also political, but I guess that’s where we are now.

 

[Gradine]

Neither are political arguments, which is not the same as saying they may have political ramifications.

I hate to break it to you but if thing has political ramifications it is inherently political. I don't particularly care why you (and here I mean the generic you) feel like I shouldn't exist, if you are using that reasoning to make the world a more difficult place for me to exist in (most often and significantly through laws) then that's politics, baby, whether you want it to be or not.

I'm not saying that I want the question as to whether I or other like me should exist to be political. Quite the contrary! I'd really rather it wasn't, personally. Sadly, I didn't get to be the one to make that decision.

Edit: To bring us back on topic, whether you (again, generic you) are aware of it or not, and whether you want to believe it or not, it is an established fact, not contested by either side, that your continued patronage of the Wizarding World directly funds those political efforts to erase people like me. That's the world we live in, as much as I wish it were not so. Again, none of us get to choose that that's the world we live in. We only get to choose what we are willing to do or not do in the face of that reality.

 

[Hex08]

Sadly, both of those are distinctly political arguments in the sense that they indicate alignment with specific political groups and ideas, and political interpretations of religion and biology. The biological argument is especially incorrect - there have never been just two biological genders, and about 5% of people (more people than are blonde) have sex chromosome abnormalities which they mostly don’t know about but would bar them from being just XX or XY.

I suppose that means that the biological and scientific arguments for trans people are also political, but I guess that’s where we are now.

Ok, I lied. I'm not bowing out yet. If it has been decided that this is an inherently political topic and political discussions, as I understand it, aren't allowed here then shouldn't this thread be closed?

 

[Morrus]

Yes, this thread is not about Harry Potter, or even JK Rowling’s views. So it’s getting closed before it explodes.