Clint_L
Legend
To clarify, I was suggesting that the sub-class levels would be divided, but not the class levels. So there would be no delay in getting the third attack; the character I described would still be a 10th level fighter, but for subclass features they would just have the 3rd level Battlemaster features and the 3rd and 7th level Rune Knight features.Yes. Someone asked and we tried it to see how it would go.
As a strange coincidence, it was almost Clint's example of a Battlemaster/Rune Knight (in this case Edritch Knight). They went EK 1-5, then BM 1-3, then EK 6-... I think 9 or 10 before the campaign petered out. As you can imagine, the delay in getting your third attack (and before that the 3-level delay in your F8 and F8 ASIs) was hugely significant, mathematically (perhaps a little less so because of EK's attack+BB). However, the benefits of both EK and BM abilities (and getting 2 action surges super-early) did eat into that deficit. And it certainly felt like there was a lot more decisions the fighter got to make (in combat, and out, since they took some of the skill-boost BM maneuvers).
It worked really about the same as those builds where you take a martial up two two attacks and then drop into something else (Ranger5/Druid 1-..., Fighter5/Rogue1-..., sorcadins, etc.). By that I mean:
- The 'build' only really takes off at level 8+. Since you really don't want to wait until level 8 or so for multi-attack as a martial, you likely will power-level whichever you want to take 5+ levels in. This means your first tier looks very much like a single-class advancement.
- At level 8 (L5/L3), you get all the cool benefits of the second archetype, which certainly feels more significant than what you might otherwise get at levels 6-8 (maybe 7-9 for paladins, who really want that aura).
- When you hit the upper tiers, those nifty level 11+ abilities classes get seem really delayed.
Is that power gaming? I dunno; it doesn't seem hugely unbalancing on the face of it, but I'm sure someone like ECMO3 could figure out a ridiculously strong combination. They're much more the exception than the rule, though.