D&D 5E Have we misunderstood the shield and sword fighter (or warrior)?

[DND_Reborn]

Im going to assume you are trolling because no one could assume that this is anything other than a blatant rules exploit.

Not at all!

It is very viable to do with a staff or spear, especially since the damage is relatively low. It would be too much if it did more damage, but since the leverage isn't there it makes sense the damage is lower.

 

[FrogReaver]

Im going to assume you are trolling because no one could assume that this is anything other than a blatant rules exploit.

You can use PAM and a spear + shield now

 

[ECMO3]

This is 100% cheese. Seriously people. Just no.

Why?

This is RAI, not cheese, it is designed to be used this way, that is the whole reason staff and spear are included in the feat.

What is cheese is getting PAM on your warcaster wizard who never attacks with a weapon, so he can cast a spell as an AOO when someone enters the reach of his staff.

 

[Digdude]

Last time I looked staves and spears were not polearms...ever.

 

[FrogReaver]

Last time I looked staves and spears were not polearms...ever.

And?

 

[niklinna]

Last time I looked staves and spears were not polearms...ever.

And yet they are plainly and explicitly listed in the feat description. So who do we get mad at?

 

[Digdude]

And?

PAM stands for Pole Arm master no?

 

[Charlaquin]

Personally, I don't like the idea that shields are portable walls that you hide behind to get a bigger AC. I'd like blocking, shield bashing, and other techniques granted to shield users (without Feats, thanks!), so they can use it actively for offense and defense purposes.

Though I know that ship has sailed, got lost at sea, was attacked by pirates, plundered, cast adrift, ran afoul of a Dragon Turtle and was sent to a final, watery grave.

I’d like it if there were boss-held shields that were treated as weapons (and thus can be equipped as an object interaction, dropped freely, and used to attack, probably 1d4 or 1d6 bludgeoning) with a property that let you increase your AC as a reaction a la Defensive Duelist/Parry, and enarm-strapped shields that were treated as armor (and as per the current rules take an action to don or doff) and granted partial cover (probably half) while equipped.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Last time I looked staves and spears were not polearms...ever.

Except many spears (especially) and staves were longer than a lot of "pole-arms" in history. It makes more sense to use PAM with this:

than this:

PAM stands for Pole Arm master no?

And yet includes spears and quarterstaffs.

So who do we get mad at?

Oh, me, me!!! 🖐

 

[James Gasik]

They probably should have named it "pole weapon master".