Have you been disillusioned by Eberron?

[Belen]

You made the explicit claim that it "uses everything from D&D" and "incorporated ALL of the power creep in the splat books".

That's simply not true. In other words, you lied, exaggerated to the point of untruth, or were mistaken.

And it does use everything from D&D. That was one of the goals of the setting: Showcase the new edition and its rules. You may disagree with me and you're free too.

Now, I am done arguing with the fanboys who need to find insult in personal preferences and views. So I am not returning to the thread. If anyone needs to discuss anything further with me, then they can PM me.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I liked it, still like it BUT starting to feel it is a turning point in its devolopment. This is really personal taste, the setting seems to moving to mainstream concepts (Forgotten Realm) than defining itself, you can see, dear say, almost quote, material from FR to Eberron.

 

[Staffan]

2) Eberron is not real D&D. Eberron contains robots,

No, it has living golems. If you want robots, you're gonna have to look at Expedition to the Barrier Peaks or the Mystara setting (Meks).

it includes psionics,

So did the 1e PHB.

it violates the notion of very present deities granting spells,

So does Basic D&D, which says that some clerics worship specific Immortals, but others just worship their alignment.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

When I read that "everything in D&D is in Eberron," my assumption was that they meant the Core Rules, not all the add-ons. My further assumption was that the setting would receive its own dedicated splatbooks and the like, in lieu of the "generic" splatbooks. I guess it's all a matter of assumptions.

 

[Staffan]

Is there some kind of anti-psionics shield that prevents inhabitants of Khorvaire from developing psionic powers?

No, but they have focused on magic instead. You won't find many wizards on Sarlona, and you won't find many non-kalashtar psions on Khorvaire.

Did the humans who colonized Khorvaire come from a pre-psionic Sarlona?

Basically, yes. The first wave of human emigrants from Sarlona came 3,000 years ago. The kalashtar appeared 1,800 years ago, followed by the Inspired 300 years later. The arrival of the Inspired and their conquest of Sarlona set off a second wave of emigration - it's pretty likely that the people fleeing the psionic Inspired would not want to bring any psionic dudes along for the ride.

 

[Kanegrundar]

Have you ever been to the WotC boards? ^.^; I got the majority of this from watching the conversations there unroll as of late, too.

I used to looooooong ago before the days of Eric Noah's site. Nowadays, I avoid that fanboy pit of elitism like the plague.

Kane

 

[Desdichado]

A) Eberron is inconsistent. Eberron is suffering from power creep, it requires careful coordination of all of the book material and the Keith Baker-provided information in order to do it "properly," it is terrible at providing context for other WotC books, its setting elements are jarring and do not fit properly together; thus, Eberron is inconsistent.

Huh. I'd disagree with that completely, and I've not recalled that I've ever heard that complaint.

2) Eberron is not real D&D. Eberron contains robots, it includes psionics, it violates the notion of definite alignment, it violates the notion of very present deities granting spells, it violates the idea of segregated races, and other such sacred cows; thus, Eberron is not D&D.

They're not robots; they're constructs. I mean, I see the point, but sentient and "living" constructs to me seem like an easy next step from the Monster Manual, personally. As for the rest of that list, those aren't D&D sacred cows to me. I've never played D&D with sharply defined deterministic alignment, ubiquitous deities, segregated races, etc. I can get it if people play D&D that way, but those certainly aren't defining elements of D&D.

 

[Desdichado]

Now, I am done arguing with the fanboys who need to find insult in personal preferences and views. So I am not returning to the thread. If anyone needs to discuss anything further with me, then they can PM me.

D'oh! And now anyone who takes insult at being called childish is a fanboy! The insults never stop!

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

D'oh! And now anyone who takes insult at being called childish is a fanboy! The insults never stop!

The funny part is I don't even PLAY in Eberron. Only mine it for my homebrew.

That's one interseting concept for a fanboy, ain't it?

 

[The_Gneech]

Dangfraggit, a golem is a magic robot! Warforged are droids with variation.

There's nothing wrong with that. I like the warforged, they're nifty.

However, they are also robots. A robot is a construct.

Sheesh.

-The Gneech