Have you decided to change systems?

[Imaro]

At least some of the players would. I know that for a fact. A round a year ago, the group that I am DMing Ptolus for was running a GURPS game under another GM having switched from D&D 3.5. The other GM is rather good and he put together a very good campaign. Despite that, eventually 4 out of 8 of the players dropped out of the game. The reason why was due totally to the game system switch. Two players quit and eventually, their spouses went with them. That is why I am trying to subtlety convert them to at least trying C&C.

Not to threadjack but, hey S. Baldrick, just curious...what is it you think will be a deal breaker for your players as far as playing C&C vs. D&D?

 

[Chainsaw Mage]

At the risk of sounding three years old: BUT WHY?

Dude, stop questioning Diaglo. He's old school. In fact, he was playing OD&D before capital letters were invented!

 

[Arnwyn]

How many are like this? I'm kind of curious. Please tell what system you're playing.

So, have you changed systems?

No. I play 3e D&D for the medieval/fantasy genre, and use Fuzion for the futuristic/sci-fi genre.

The likelihood of this changing is near zero.

 

[francisca]

i'm gonna have to see the scars from your lobotomy mang.

So, does this get me on your ignore list, or are you busy planning an intervention?

 

[Arnwyn]

They'd drop your campaigns? If they enjoy your GMing and they're not already playing other 3.5e GM's games, that seems unlikely, surely?

As others have said, this isn't necessarily unlikely at all.

I, as well as my friends/players, would certainly not play in a campaign/game based on a particular rule system. To us, the system used is one of the major factors in how much fun we have.

 

[S. Baldrick]

Not to threadjack but, hey S. Baldrick, just curious...what is it you think will be a deal breaker for your players as far as playing C&C vs. D&D?

That is actually kind of hard to nail down. I actually think that there would be a couple of deal breakers depending on the player. All together, my 3 groups are spread out among 16 people with 2 over lapping into 2 of the groups. Different players would have different reasons for resisting the change. Some of the players just like 3.x D&D with all of “Munckinism.” Some of them just don’t want to go to trouble to learn a new gaming system. Others don’t want to spend the money (although 1 players hand book wouldn’t be that bad.) All in all, there would be a couple of deal breakers, the biggest one would probably be the whole “I don’t want to learn a new system.” I do figure that I could probably get a few of them to try “Assault on Black Tooth Ridge” on a Saturday afternoon and I think that they might be hooked. If not, I’m still OK with running and playing 3.x D&D but I will likely be out looking for a C&C group to join.

 

[mhensley]

I know. I kind of miss that old edition war forum.

Me too. It was greatly entertaining.

 

[Chainsaw Mage]

most of these people play an RPG, board game or CCG at least twice a week and several play CCGs at the tournament level.

WTF? What are these people, 16? Don't they have jobs? Wives? Kids?

 

[Odhanan]

Seriously. Me too. Ptolus is of a higher quality that is several orders of magnitude than any gaming product I've ever seen. This single product alone is enough to keep me from wanting to try anything else. I guess I could always adapt the setting to another system ... but I'm not sure the adaptation would compensate for the extra effort required to run 3.5E.

While it's certainly possible to adapt the setting to pretty much any game system (RoleMaster, RuneQuest and the Dark Eye systems come to my mind, not even speaking of d20 variations), I'm convinced that something of the Ptolus flavor would be lost in the conversion. Ptolus grew out of Third Edition and vice versa. You can clearly feel the influence of one into the other when you come to know both.

 

[MoogleEmpMog]

WTF? What are these people, 16? Don't they have jobs? Wives? Kids?

They range from, at a guess, 15 to 60 (I'm more confident of the low end number than the high end number). Everyone over 20 either has a job or is retired, although at least one has been unemployed in the last year. A majority are unmarried (two divorced) and of the married couples, over half game together at least 75% of the time.

When you don't rely on having every member of a small group present for every session, it's a LOT easier to schedule games; only the GM has to have, say, a Saturday free every other week, because there will always be enough players who ALSO have a Saturday free. If that GM is only free Thursday night the other week, he's likely to play a board or collectible game. And so on.