Hawkeye Disney+ Limited Series (spoilers)
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Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
Maya did not show up to fight Kazi. She showed up to get him to run away with her because they were lovers, but her feelings for him were a lot stronger than his for her, so he basically forced her to kill him.
Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
Never trust an off-screen death. And with superhero-related stuff, never trust an on-screen death. lol
Besides, someone has to be chasing Maya in her Echo limited series, or maybe someone she is still trying to take down in her series.
And how did I forget to include her in the Young Avengers speculation? Though for now, she may fit more with the Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts thing that Val is assembling.
RangerWickett
Legend
That didn't come across to me. Maybe I am misremembering, but it seemed like she showed up, injured some of his friends (which is a pretty bad way to start a conversation), and then they very quickly started fighting. I don't think the fight was well-motivated in the plot, whereas if Kazi attacks her to protect Kingpin, that's a stronger reason for the two of them to fight.
Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
Very good article about/interview with Vincent D'Onofrio:
www.yahoo.com
This particular part really stood out:
Vincent D'Onofrio reveals how his 'Daredevil' villain joins the MCU on the 'Hawkeye' season finale
D'Onofrio explains how he and his "Daredevil" costar, Charlie Cox, came to join the MCU.
This particular part really stood out:
pukunui
Legend
Kazi is standing with two cronies about to shoot Clint with his sniper rifle. Maya uses her bike to knock over the cronies then starts talking to Kazi. He tells her she should have left. She pleads with him to go with her. He says “this is my life!” He grabs an arrow, they fight, she breaks the arrow and stabs him with part of it and he dies.
She explicitly tells him that she doesn't want to kill him and that they could leave together.
Yeah, it read to me like a classic "struggling over a weapon and one of them gets stabbed with it" thing.
Overall, it was a good series. I enjoyed Wandavision and Loki more, but this gave the old Hawkeye a decent wrapping-up, which I admit was called for.
Yes, that’s the implication.
Yeah. It seems to me that Clint wants to at least semi-retire, so passing on the name makes sense - after all Cap did it, so why can't he?
Tonguez
A suffusion of yellow
yeah Clint officially retired after the Battle of Sokovia, and every subsequent appearance has been reluctant (Civil War because of his personal loyalty to Rogers and then as Ronin after the Snap). Being able to hand on the mantle of Hawkeye would be the ideal for Clint - it might even set up Himself and Mrs Hawkeye as mentors to a new team of young avengers
trappedslider
Legend
I wonder how many take they had to do due to them laughing in the elevator lol
Blue
Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Shield put their logo all over the place for a supposedly secret organization. But it could have also been a retirement gift.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Well, they weren’t a secret organization. They were a spy agency, and in the long American tradition, they had a big fancy office building headquarters and their logo all over their kit.
I mean, it’s not like and agent is taking their “20 years with the company” watch out on secret missions.
Is it a secret organisation? It has helicarriers! At least from its portrayal in the movies, I assumed it was a well-known military branch.
Blue
Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
One person specifically doing the whiltle because they knew what it meant to the other person and needing to convey how much their shared friend/sister meant to them that she would share something secret from so many years ago.
Sorry, didn't get a single "Maarthaaa" vibe from it in the slightest.
Ryujin
Legend
They were a known intelligence agency but their one helicarrier was capable of cloaking and secret, until they made 20 of them and they... weren't. Launching a bunch of them from under the headquarters reflecting pool was a bit of a give-away.
I like Hawkeye a lot, but that bit was pretty basic writing 101. It ticked the box correctly and served its function, but it wasn’t particularly interesting.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
It's called out a couple of times in Agents if Shield.
But if you look at some real life intelligence agencies, officially they don't exist, even though everyone knows they do.
billd91
Not your screen monkey (he/him)
It's kind of hard to pin down. Even in the comics SHIELD was pretty secretive - hidden bases and all that as inspired by the Man from UNCLE. But I think it's more of an iceberg kind of organization - it may have had a small public profile but there's a LOT going on underneath the relatively impenetrable surface.
In various other incarnations, it's been higher profile - including the Ultimates universe.
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