Healers that aren't clerics


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pawsplay said:
If you're just going by that snippet, they could scribe a cleric scroll.

That's true.

I still can't find something to preclude the from scribing a bard's scroll. Could you please show me?
 

Well from the SRD's wizard entry:
"A wizard casts arcane spells which are drawn from the sorcerer/ wizard spell list."

Also I'm pretty sure everyone involved in writing of the rules and nearly everyone who plays the game would not agree with your assesment of wizards learning spells from any spell list from scrolls. Which even if the above quote from the SRD doesn't prove it (or at least contradict it), clearly goes against the spirit of the rules.
 

Going back to the original topic, there's also
- any arcane caster with arcane disciple (healing domain)
- a mostly-arcanist with the Silver Pyromancer PrC from Five Nations (Eberron) can cast paladin spells
- artificer as a wand/scroll crafter and UMD guy
 

Aust Diamondew said:
Well from the SRD's wizard entry:
"A wizard casts arcane spells which are drawn from the sorcerer/ wizard spell list."

Also I'm pretty sure everyone involved in writing of the rules and nearly everyone who plays the game would not agree with your assesment of wizards learning spells from any spell list from scrolls. Which even if the above quote from the SRD doesn't prove it (or at least contradict it), clearly goes against the spirit of the rules.

Fair enough. I guess I was interpreting that as applying to spells they gain every level, but looking at it now I see that there's nothing to indicate that in the RAW. I guess I was just reverse-extrapolating from the archivist's ability to scribe any divine spell into his prayerbook, which was an error.
 

Back to the original topic, Marshal's using the alternate class feature from the PHB2 can grant temporary HP to their allies -- it's not quite the same as healing, but combined with the DR they can grant it can do in a pinch.
 

Kafkonia said:
Fair enough. I guess I was interpreting that as applying to spells they gain every level...
No, you're correct. You can scribe Bard spells, or even Divine spells, into a Wizard spellbook.

They won't do jack because you can't cast them (and neither can anyone else--Bards and Clerics don't use spellbooks, and Archivists use "prayer books"), but you can still write them down.

:p
 

You can make a good healer out of an Incarnate, thought it takes a bit of commitment to it. Combine these two soulmelds,

Lifebond Vestments - Heal someone while taking half the amount as damage yourself. There's a limit to how much you can do at once (at 6th level it can be as much as 26 points), and the same target can't be healed more than once per hour.

Therapeutic Mantle - Increase the effect of healing spells on yourself. +1 per spell level, +2 per point of essentia. So for the same 6th level Incarnate a charge from a Wand of CLW would heal 1d8+8.

and you get someone who can absorb damage from the party while halving it, then be healed themselves at an accelerated rate. If you want true self sufficiency you can take Mage's Spectacles as a third soulmeld to get UMD +10 and wave the healstick yourself.
 

Artificer can do it but it is through scrolls and wands they make.

Binder (tome of magic) has some vestiges that can heal.

Crusaders (tome of battle) have manuevers and stances taht can heal
 

I just got to flip through a copy of Complete Mage. There's a Warlock prestige class that (1) gives full invocation progression, (2) gives full Turn Undead progression, (3) lets you spend a Turn Undead attempt to make you Eldritch Blast heal its targets for the amount that they should have been damaged.

You could try that, too.
 

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