here's a good one...

[Kerrick]

I've got a question for you folks out there... This happened a couple sessions ago to one of my characters.

I was playing a 13th-level barbarian wearing heavy fortification leather armor (+3, if you really want to know). We were going up against a death knight, a high-level bard, and a flesh golem servant. In the final battle, the death knight wrapped his spiked chain around my PC's neck (successful hit) and yanked me off my feet. I failed the Strength check, and I was airborne. He proceeded to whirl me around his head for two rounds (I failed the Escape Artist check both times) until he got me up to somewhere around 80 rpm, then slammed me into a 15-foot thick marble pillar. After several mintues of discussion, the DM ruled that I was dead, no save. He didn't even bother to roll damage - I had 175 hit points (raging). What do you guys think?

 

[hero4hire]

wow...either he was a bad dm or he really hated your character.

if he flung you off a cliff I can see a instant death.

 

[dcollins]

There are no rules for "yank off your feet with a chain" or "whirl around for 2 rounds". You are playing in a very loosey-goosey, fly-by-the-pants kind of DM'ing campaign. To be fair, a certain percentage of people actually like that sort of thing and call it "cinematic".

 

[Storyteller01]

How strong is this Death Knight!?

Figure a 250 to 300 lbs character, whirled over his head to 80 RPM !!??

Couldn't you just figure it as falling damage?

 

[Hypersmurf]

There are no rules for "yank off your feet with a chain" or "whirl around for 2 rounds".

No, it's a feat in The Complete Death Knight. Prerequisites are "You're a Death Knight", EWP: Spiked Chain, Improved Trip, and Str 30+.

With the Escape Artist check and the no-save death, it sounds like the DM was following the mechanics to the letter.

-Hyp.

 

[UltimaGabe]

What do you guys think?

*Sigh*... Not another one.

Sorry. Some DMs out there are just horribly, horribly, horribly stupid.

Maybe in his deranged little mind it seemed to make sense, but everywhere except this little pocket of insanity, it's just stupid.

 

[Len]

No, it's a feat in The Complete Death Knight. Prerequisites are "You're a Death Knight", EWP: Spiked Chain, Improved Trip, and Str 30+.

With the Escape Artist check and the no-save death, it sounds like the DM was following the mechanics to the letter.

The Death Knight is broken.

In fact, my party broke a Death Knight just the other day.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

No, it's a feat in The Complete Death Knight. Prerequisites are "You're a Death Knight", EWP: Spiked Chain, Improved Trip, and Str 30+.

With the Escape Artist check and the no-save death, it sounds like the DM was following the mechanics to the letter.

*blink*

...is this post in earnest? I like to think I can usually spot the gags, but...

 

[Sejs]

Prerequisites are "You're a Death Knight", EWP: Spiked Chain, Improved Trip, and Str 30+.

Improved Power Trip.

*nod*

 

[Hypersmurf]

Improved Power Trip.

*nod*

Oops - yeah, I copied it down wrong.

-Hyp.