D&D 5E (2024) Heroes of the Borderlands

[Lazybones]

I believe it is for levels 1 and 2, so definitely shorter than LMoP

The character cards go to 3rd level, with two choices for subclass (on the front and back of the L3 cards).

 

[FitzTheRuke]

They say it estimates at 60 hours of play. To me, thar seems longer than Phandelver, which I have always thought of as about 40 hours.

But I'm not sure how they're judged.

 

[mamba]

The character cards go to 3rd level, with two choices for subclass (on the front and back of the L3 cards).

so 1 to 3 then, still less than 1 to 5, but more than single session

 

[mamba]

They say it estimates at 60 hours of play. To me, thar seems longer than Phandelver, which I have always thought of as about 40 hours.

But I'm not sure how they're judged.

yeah, not sure I trust that… did they give an estimate for LMoP? I’d assume LMoP to be longer simply based on the level range…

 

[FitzTheRuke]

yeah, not sure I trust that… did they give an estimate for LMoP?

I don't remember if my 40-hour thinking on it comes from them, or from playing it multiple times.

I’d assume LMoP to be longer simply based on the level range…

It seems like the Keep includes a lot of shops. Honestly, if they time it with a lot of sotcial interaction, it will take longer than a cut-to-the-chase game. (I'm not saying that Phandelver was one of those, but I can say that when I played it, we didn't do any shopping).

I think you're right. I think that Phandelver, when played fully and not rushed, will take longer than this will, but as they are purposefully and explicitly (or so they say) trying (once again) to bring up the Social and Exploration Pillars, they judge its duration including that.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes any of my groups to play, and if their playstyle adjusts slightly with encouragement.

 

[Parmandur]

I don't remember if my 40-hour thinking on it comes from them, or from playing it multiple times

Google suggests that Lost Mines is expected to take 20-40 hours officially.

One thing to consider, ia that it seems that this box set is using the DMG truncated adventure prep information format, whereas Phandelver is a more old school descriptive style, and had a significant Bestiary that this set seems to offload to the cards.

 

[GarrettKP]

Google suggests that Lost Mines is expected to take 20-40 hours officially.

One thing to consider, ia that it seems that this box set is using the DMG truncated adventure prep information format, whereas Phandelver is a more old school descriptive style, and had a significant Bestiary that this set seems to offload to the cards.

The Starter Set adventures are bigger than the DMG style adventures. But not as big as, say, Lost Mines. They just have a lot of 1 hour scenarios.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

How is it story wise beyond hack & slash ?

The fact that there's a keep booklet suggests that at least some of the adventures aren't just about carving your way through your enemies, unless this is a very different take on Keep on the Borderlands.

 

[Parmandur]

The Starter Set adventures are bigger than the DMG style adventures. But not as big as, say, Lost Mines. They just have a lot of 1 hour scenarios.

Right,not that the Adventures are one page adventures, but it seems that they use the economy of space approach like woth Dragon Delves.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I believe it is for levels 1 and 2, so definitely shorter than LMoP

It goes through level 3 and everyone having a subclass.