Heroes...Season 1 10/09/06 Esp#3

[Mad Hatter]

Bah! Claire is not accident prone. She does it on purpose. That, my friends, is suicidal at worst and plain ol' testing your limits at best. Seriously, I'd be testing myself like crazy (ala Groundhog Day).

I like that she only heals after the obstruction is removed or fixed. It makes sense. Is anyone else slightly distrubed that this tv show is doing her regen powers better than they ever did for Wolverine in the movies?

I don't think that Peter is a mimic. I just think that he hasn't quite learned his trigger yet for whatever reason. But I suppose it is possible.

 

[Umbran]

Maybe wo got one thing wrong - she is not a Hero, she is a villain. Her mirror-self doesn't seem like a friendly person.

Well, consider that the only people we've ever harmed by her mirror-self were very bad people, about to put her in a very bad position. Maybe she's a villain, and maybe she's just in a tough spot...

Did I get that right or was Peter hurt after he hit is brother= The woman mentioned he would bleed, and the scene didn't indicate that his brothers guards did hit him so hard.

I think they hit him plenty hard enough to give him a bloody lip. I don't think there's enough evidence to make claims for physically manifested empathy.

That's definitely a possibility - though we haven't found someone yet that can manipulate people without touching them. The police telepath seems only able to read minds. But maybe Hiro's time-stop power could create the same result?

Possibly, but Hiro still has his brains

 

[Ed_Laprade]

I don't think that Peter is a mimic. I just think that he hasn't quite learned his trigger yet for whatever reason. But I suppose it is possible.

Um, read last week's (I think it is) TV Guide. The one with the spread on the series. They state quite clearly that he's a mimic.

 

[LightPhoenix]

I like that she only heals after the obstruction is removed or fixed. It makes sense. Is anyone else slightly distrubed that this tv show is doing her regen powers better than they ever did for Wolverine in the movies?

I like the fact, confirmed tonight in the last scene, that Claire doesn't feel any physical pain.

That's definitely a possibility - though we haven't found someone yet that can manipulate people without touching them. The police telepath seems only able to read minds. But maybe Hiro's time-stop power could create the same result?

The first point isn't true... whoever attacked the little girl made Clea Duvall (what's her character's name?) point the gun at her head. Only Matt (the cop) shooting him from nowhere saved her.

Also, Hiro could conceivably stop time and move someone to manipulate them, but that is still physical. Though he didn't actually move the girl's pose in any way, just her position.

My (current) theory is that Sylar is the supervillain and has all 9 (I think it's 9) of the powers that each individual character has - and all 9 main characters have to gang up on him to defeat him at the show's climax.

The problem with that is there are more than nine people with powers. Sylar's map, confirmed by Mohinder's comments, shows much more than that.

My personal theory is that Sylar consumes brains to gain powers, hence tracking the heroes on the map. He may have originally had a power, but it's impossible to tell right now.

Evidence:

1) The crime scene Clea and Matt are at shows two distinct powers - the man is frozen and the woman is telekinestically killed.

2) When Matt and "Sylar" (if that was him) stand-off, he shows several powers - mind-control, immunity or regeneration, and some sort of ability to make a hasty retreat.

3) Claire doesn't regenerate until the branch in her brain is removed. As soon as it is, it kicks in.

 

[Victim]

I don't think Sylar having the FBI agent point her gun at herself was mind control. It was TK, grabbing her gun and hand and forcing it to aim at her head. That's why she was freaking out and trying to force the gun away with her other hand. TK would also explain the people killed with small objects and possibly some of his other tricks.

Also, Claire's lack of pain may be contributing to her injuries, since she wouldn't be instinctively trying to avoid the damage by flinching, tensing up muscles, etc.

 

[Fast Learner]

Agreed, Sylar's power is TK, exclusively as far as we've seen.

But yeah, Claire is awfully accident-prone, either way. How often are cheerleaders crushed by players during practice? How often do you hit your head on a sharp stick so hard it bashes through your skull?

 

[Mad Hatter]

Really? They stated he was a mimic? Well without knowing that I wouldn't have believed it, hence my comment. That's one reason I don't like stuff like that because without someone telling you, you wouldn't get that conclusion. Because so far, we only have one maybe two people who control their power with relative proficiency (Claire, but that's passive and Hiro). So it wouldn't be far out that one of the only other characters with an active power would have a hard time even using his.

 

[Victim]

Agreed, Sylar's power is TK, exclusively as far as we've seen.

But yeah, Claire is awfully accident-prone, either way. How often are cheerleaders crushed by players during practice? How often do you hit your head on a sharp stick so hard it bashes through your skull?

Well, never on the second one.

I think a normal person would have reflexively twisted their head at the last second and vastly reduced the significance of the injury since the stick would scrape more along the surface rather than punching straight through. If I poke my hand on a nail, I'll usually come away with a minor scratch since I'm going to jerk my hand away. Lacking normal awareness of pain, Claire usually isn't going to do that, so she'll probably keep pushing her hand onto the nail and not realize she drove the point through her hand until she looks at it, feels wetness from her blood, or something. I get a tiny scratch and she impales her hand. It's not a matter of being accident prone; it's a consequence of her pain blocking powers.

I'd expect that not feeling pain would lead to pretty much anyone having more frequent and severe injuries.

 

[WayneLigon]

Really? They stated he was a mimic?

Nobody has stated it, but that seems the smart way to bet.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Nobody has stated it, but that seems the smart way to bet.

Not really. We haven't seen him in the presence of other people using their powers. And it owuld be doubly hard since there are so few characters with active powers (Hiro, Matt, and Nathan). I mean it wouldn't really make sense that he's in Claire's general area and all of a sudden he can regenerate. It's not something you can test with ease. Far more likely is that he's just having a hard time even using his ability. Flight isn't something you should just pick up like that. It's an unnatural state. And before you posit the argument that it should also apply to the others, I say "not really" because like I've said they have passive powers that are on all the time save for Hiro. I love Hiro's enthusiasm for his powers. He is amazingly proactive and his joy is just infectious. And Matt is just learning about his telepathy and so far he ain't controlling it well or at all.