Heroes...Season 1 10/09/06 Esp#3

It occurs to me that the Heroes will be pretty much depending on Hiro if they're in any kind of straight-up fight; no one has a straightforward offensive power except maybe astral-projection mom (and her abilities are too eratic), and Claire apparenlty doesn't know how to fight (and so can't really take advantage of being unbreakable-girl). The cop at least has some weapons training, but small arms didn't seem to work too well in the first encounter with Sylar.
 

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Nathan mimiced the artist's future predicting paintings, sketching out the rooftop scene. His brother didn't seem to be feeling well right before Nathan flew the second time, and when they both flew the first time, they crashed. It seems like his power mimicry has some side effects...

And when his brother flies, he certainly picks it up instantly, even if he doesn't use it much - I suppose its possible he's been practicing it on the sly, but it doesn't seem likely. The cop's telepathy worked so easily he didn't even know he was doing it at first.
 

Victim said:
Nathan mimiced the artist's future predicting paintings, sketching out the rooftop scene. His brother didn't seem to be feeling well right before Nathan flew the second time, and when they both flew the first time, they crashed. It seems like his power mimicry has some side effects...

And when his brother flies, he certainly picks it up instantly, even if he doesn't use it much - I suppose its possible he's been practicing it on the sly, but it doesn't seem likely. The cop's telepathy worked so easily he didn't even know he was doing it at first.

He was already dreaming about flying long before he came into contact with Isaac. It was how he was introduced and the first thing he told his brother. All of which happened before he met Isaac and saw what he could do.

And you mean Peter. Nathan is the older brother who could already fly.
 


He had already had the dreams that showed the events before he met Isaac though. So, to me, that wouldn't be conclusive of him being a mimic at all. Certainly in hindsight with the knowledge that that's where they are definately goin, sure. But not with just what they gave us and having never read that he was going to be a mimic. The only guy that you could conclude that for is Sylar...or who we believe to be Sylar. And that's because he got up after being shot. And then the void of silence if that black dude is Sylar.
 

I thought it was pretty obvious that he picked up the artist's ability.

I'm thinking the guy in the bar that the police officer couldn't read is the stripper's (ex)husband. The neckace gives it away.

The cute neighbor girl gets even more suspicious. She keeps conveniently finding stuff and she was the only one to know about the apartment they broke into, so she must've had something to do with it getting cleaned out before they came back with the police (Sylar is apparently in LA at this time).
 
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JEL said:
I thought itt was pretty obvious, him picking up the artist's ability.

How is it obvious? He hasn't done anything to indicate that he picked up the gift of future sight. That drawing...the dreams all happened before he ever met Isaac. That is not obvious. Since he's met Isaac, all he's done is talk to his brother and try to fly. There has been no indication that he mimicked Isaac's ability. And I think it would be kinda hard since it requires Isaac to get high as a kite. In fact you can't really conclude that he is a mimic unless you got a spoiler. And even with the spoiler, it's pretty hard to conclude it because they haven't indicated anything other than he should be able to fly, but can't.

JEL said:
I'm thinking the guy in the bar that the police officer couldn't read is the stripper's (ex)husband. The neckace gives it away.

Nah. That isn't her ex. D.L. is being played by the guy that played Forest on Buffy. He was in the Initiative. I checked imdb.com the first time we saw Niki and she mentioned D.L.. The guy's name is Leonard Roberts. But I do think that she killed those guys to help him too.
 

Mad Hatter said:
How is it obvious? He hasn't done anything to indicate that he picked up the gift of future sight. That drawing...the dreams all happened before he ever met Isaac. That is not obvious. Since he's met Isaac, all he's done is talk to his brother and try to fly. There has been no indication that he mimicked Isaac's ability. And I think it would be kinda hard since it requires Isaac to get high as a kite. In fact you can't really conclude that he is a mimic unless you got a spoiler. And even with the spoiler, it's pretty hard to conclude it because they haven't indicated anything other than he should be able to fly, but can't.
Okay, how about this theory. What if Simone (the daughter of Peter's initial patient) is somehow giving him the ability? Maybe she's like a muse, inspiring others and granting them access to the future sight. After all, Peter was with her alot more around the time of the dreams and such before he met Isaac. Also, why is Simone so prominent here if she's nothing more than the hinge of a love triangle. We haven't seen any powers from her yet, but I gotta think that she is one of the Hero's in this story eventually.

Has everyone been catching that weird symbol everywhere? On the 'silent' guy's necklace, On Claire's book in her locker, on the computer when Mo runs his dad's program, as a painting in Isaac's place? Heck I think they even made it in the pool at the crimescene house in Ep 2 out of floating piping and attachments!

Overall, I'm loving it so far. And I definately think that Mo's cute neighbor is a plant from the bad guy's organization. Like Ethan and Goodwin in Lost! Just too convenient that she keeps finding everything and that Sylar's place get's cleaned out that quickly when only her and Mo knew about it. I mean, how long does it take to go out the building and find some cops to come check out a place?

Edit: Oops! Forgot one thing. Mo's dad is alive! I base this on nothing in the series of what they have told us. I only base this on the fact that they have shown us his face now (on the back of his book) and there was no reason to do that if they didn't want us to be able to recognize him instantly when we saw him. Not to mention that you don't hire an actor like him to be nothing more that a face shot. Can't wait to see if I'm right!
 
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Mad Hatter said:
There has been no indication that he mimicked Isaac's ability. And I think it would be kinda hard since it requires Isaac to get high as a kite.
Do we know that it requires Isaac to be high to see (and paint) the future, or is that just the way it's worked thus far? I could see him believing that to be the case, but do we know for sure that that's how it works?

Johnathan
 

Richards said:
Do we know that it requires Isaac to be high to see (and paint) the future, or is that just the way it's worked thus far? I could see him believing that to be the case, but do we know for sure that that's how it works?

Well, we don't know for sure that it does require him being high. Only that he doesn't get them at any other time except when high. So it is circumstantial and at this point I'm willing to believe he needs to be high. I guess it would make sense. He'd be more open to that sort of thing. It has also been put forth that some of the greatest artists out there (singer, painters etc) have been at their best when high or drunk. he also might need to be high because he just can't control it yet. Maybe with time he won't need to get high. A nice working progression from needing an outside factor to be loose enough to see the future and then being controlled enough to be able to induce it.

Phoenix8008 said:
Okay, how about this theory. What if Simone (the daughter of Peter's initial patient) is somehow giving him the ability? Maybe she's like a muse, inspiring others and granting them access to the future sight. After all, Peter was with her alot more around the time of the dreams and such before he met Isaac. Also, why is Simone so prominent here if she's nothing more than the hinge of a love triangle. We haven't seen any powers from her yet, but I gotta think that she is one of the Hero's in this story eventually.


As for Simone being a hero, where does it say that she has to have abilities just because she is prominent? She could easily be for character development. She's the skeptic. The girlfriend. The motivation in as much as two people with abilites care for her. That's all that's necessary. I like the fact that she is an ordinary person trying to come to terms with this. Heroes is, to me, the time before XMen. Before the paranoia. Before we get the tights. These are just people. And they are surrounded by other people who are just people. The character of Simone would be so rich and fulfilling if they keep her role as such. But we could find out she has abilities. I just don't happen to think she does. I think we would've seen more tangible proof that she has abilities. All the characters with abilities have shown us something.

Phoenix8008 said:
Has everyone been catching that weird symbol everywhere? On the 'silent' guy's necklace, On Claire's book in her locker, on the computer when Mo runs his dad's program, as a painting in Isaac's place? Heck I think they even made it in the pool at the crimescene house in Ep 2 out of floating piping and attachments!

Oh yeah. I've been seeing that a lot to. It'll be interesting to see if it's just the calling card of Sylar or something more.

Phoenix8008 said:
Overall, I'm loving it so far. And I definately think that Mo's cute neighbor is a plant from the bad guy's organization. Like Ethan and Goodwin in Lost! Just too convenient that she keeps finding everything and that Sylar's place get's cleaned out that quickly when only her and Mo knew about it. I mean, how long does it take to go out the building and find some cops to come check out a place?

Yeah. I was and still am suspicious of her. I think she could be working for Claire's dad and is just playing dumb to both Mohinder and his dad. Or she could be a red herring and be completely innocent. Either way would be cool to me really.

I really like this show too. I like how it's before we get the prejudices and all we have is that transition time of when no one knows and the moment before everyone knows. I like this first great threat. And how it might not even be the first great threat. I have this feeling that the nuke might be just a side thing and the real threat will come from somewhere else. Not the first time something like that has happened. All in all this show is cool. Heck, Sylar could be the red herring and the nuke be the end all. Either way, it's all good.
 

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