I think the Haitian has to focus on his target to supress their powers, Nathan caught him by suprise.Krafus said:
Heroes Season 1(#10)---11/27/06-'Six Months Ago'
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WayneLigon
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Arnwyn said:
When Mohinder and Eden go to Sylar's apartment they find an open book by his bedside that seem to be detailing the physiology of the brain, or some similar illustrated textbook. Now that scene makes much more sense; he wouldn't really need to know how the brain works if you were just eating it to absorb something from it physically (like, say, a planerian worm). He's probably looking at the map of brain functions, seeing where the 'seat' of the powers lies. (Suresh seems to state this as well, in his speech about how the brain controls everything).
Silver Moon
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I saw that as a homage to "The Watchmen".LightPhoenix said:
WayneLigon said:
Now that's an interesting train of thought... Suresh, in fact, says something along the lines of "Now, if the soul exists - scientifically speaking - then it exists in the brain." This could keep the "But we want Sylar to eat something, dammit!" crowd happy - he doesn't eat brains, he devours people's souls!
In the Peter versus Sylar showdown we all see coming, Sylar has a huge advantage.
When Brian first showed his powers to Gabriel, it was halting and difficult to move the cup. Gabriel later moved one easily, but then lost control of it. In the school, Sylar ripped doors off of lockers and flung them at Peter. We've seen other evidence that there is a learning curve to the powers. Learning how to filter out thoughts, how to control flight, how to control time bending abilities...
Peter will have no experience with his powers that he gains from Sylar. It is as if you went to fight Superman and 5 seconds before the fight you suddenly have his abilities. He's going to kick your butt because he knows how to use them.
The X-factor will be if there are other heroes nearby who can "lend" Peter a helping hand with powers that Sylar won't have.
When Brian first showed his powers to Gabriel, it was halting and difficult to move the cup. Gabriel later moved one easily, but then lost control of it. In the school, Sylar ripped doors off of lockers and flung them at Peter. We've seen other evidence that there is a learning curve to the powers. Learning how to filter out thoughts, how to control flight, how to control time bending abilities...
Peter will have no experience with his powers that he gains from Sylar. It is as if you went to fight Superman and 5 seconds before the fight you suddenly have his abilities. He's going to kick your butt because he knows how to use them.
The X-factor will be if there are other heroes nearby who can "lend" Peter a helping hand with powers that Sylar won't have.
Or will Sylar see what he has become in Peter?Grymar said:
Peter has yet to take the time to learn his power, he has only played around with it but he has yet to learn it. Sylar takes and learns but as shown can be taken out without too much trouble, as shown last week by Eden and the Haitian, combo powering him to sleep, sure it was ambush but hey, it shows with planning.
Y'know, I'm starting to wonder if combat between the sups, should it occur, might not be akin to a rock-paper-scissor game. For example, Sylar might be able to defeat most sups... But can't resist Eden's mind powers. Eden can defeat Sylar... But not the Haitian. The Haitian can defeat people with mind powers... But would get his ass handed to him by Niki/Jessica.
A few observations and theories about peoples' powers:
First off: Hatian Guy. I think his power is only memory alteration, not power-blocking. In the scene where HG seems to be blocking Eden's powers, he's not. Eden's powers still worked, as evidenced by the funky voice-effect. He was using his powers on Mr Bennett, not Eden, erasing his memory of Eden's hypnotic suggestion as soon as it was made. If he were a power-blocker, they would be setting him up for a more direct thematic confrontation with Peter and Sylar (the other power modifiers).
As for Sylar, I think he can definitely detect heroes. I don't think it necessarily has to be a conscious thing, either. We've seen him miss a hero right in front of his face on two occasion that I can think of (Hiro in the diner, and Claire in the locker room), but in both those cases there was a least one hero present. I think he can sense a "disruption in the pattern" that a Hero creates, but can't pinpoint exactly where it's coming from. He knows that there are "Hero Vibes" in the diner, and makes the assumption that they’re coming from Charlie (possibly recognizing her from Chandra's List?). Once Sylar absorbs her, I imagine he's a little disappointed to realize that he has a newfound proficiency for languages and trivia, and not the ability to bend space and time that he was hoping for. Oh well, some days it just sucks to be a brain-eating telekinetic power-ghoul, I s'pose.
The one I'm really interested in now is Mr Bennett. Who IS this guy? He doesn't seem to know about the Heroes specifically at the beginning, but he's not surprised when he gets the call from Dr Chandra asking to see Claire. Not happy, but not surprised, either. He's already into some funky conspiracy game at that point, but what is it? I want the details behind Claire's sketchy adoption. And is he really evil? Ruthless and Machiavellian, yes. He kidnaps, manipulates and lies, but does he believe that he's acting for the greater good? The impression at the beginning is that Bennett killed Mohinder's father…I'm guessing he didn't.
A little long-winded, but this show's best strength is in its' ability to generate just this kind of speculation, so I am unrepentant![:]](http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png "Devious :]")
First off: Hatian Guy. I think his power is only memory alteration, not power-blocking. In the scene where HG seems to be blocking Eden's powers, he's not. Eden's powers still worked, as evidenced by the funky voice-effect. He was using his powers on Mr Bennett, not Eden, erasing his memory of Eden's hypnotic suggestion as soon as it was made. If he were a power-blocker, they would be setting him up for a more direct thematic confrontation with Peter and Sylar (the other power modifiers).
As for Sylar, I think he can definitely detect heroes. I don't think it necessarily has to be a conscious thing, either. We've seen him miss a hero right in front of his face on two occasion that I can think of (Hiro in the diner, and Claire in the locker room), but in both those cases there was a least one hero present. I think he can sense a "disruption in the pattern" that a Hero creates, but can't pinpoint exactly where it's coming from. He knows that there are "Hero Vibes" in the diner, and makes the assumption that they’re coming from Charlie (possibly recognizing her from Chandra's List?). Once Sylar absorbs her, I imagine he's a little disappointed to realize that he has a newfound proficiency for languages and trivia, and not the ability to bend space and time that he was hoping for. Oh well, some days it just sucks to be a brain-eating telekinetic power-ghoul, I s'pose.
The one I'm really interested in now is Mr Bennett. Who IS this guy? He doesn't seem to know about the Heroes specifically at the beginning, but he's not surprised when he gets the call from Dr Chandra asking to see Claire. Not happy, but not surprised, either. He's already into some funky conspiracy game at that point, but what is it? I want the details behind Claire's sketchy adoption. And is he really evil? Ruthless and Machiavellian, yes. He kidnaps, manipulates and lies, but does he believe that he's acting for the greater good? The impression at the beginning is that Bennett killed Mohinder's father…I'm guessing he didn't.
A little long-winded, but this show's best strength is in its' ability to generate just this kind of speculation, so I am unrepentant
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el-remmen
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This is going back an episode, but I wonder if Peter can absorb more than one power at a time?
What if he was absorbing Claire's regenerative ability at the same time he was absorbing Syler's "understanding power" - as he seemed to figure out right away the could adjust his broken body to make it heal quicker.
What if he was absorbing Claire's regenerative ability at the same time he was absorbing Syler's "understanding power" - as he seemed to figure out right away the could adjust his broken body to make it heal quicker.
Ed_Laprade
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Ok, the writers have a lot of 'splanin to do!
Matt: Is either an idiot of certifiable. He has a serious reading disability, but he wants a job that is, like, 90% paperwork? What the heck does he think is going to happen if he gets it?
Eden: I just didn't like the Bene Gesserit (sp?) Voice. She didn't need it for Syler last week.
Hiro: Money.
Nikki/Jessica: I thought she was an idiout, now I'm sure. She's also a hypocrite. She/they both insist that what they're doing is for the kid. So what have they done? Framed his dad for murder and grand theft. Yeah, that trauma is really gonna help him a lot! Using the 2 mil someday... The cops aren't going to drop the case until the kid's an old man. So how is she going to explain to him where the money came from, and that they have to live in a country without an extradition treaty with the US? If he's half a bright as she thinks he is, he's gonna figure it out. More trauma! She thinks she can pay off a 30 grand loan in six months. So she goes to a loan shark with known mob connections instead of waiting and actually getting the money up front. How is getting her legs broken going to help the kid? Dad gives her a big check. She gives it back. How's that gonna help the kid? She appears to be about to kill the kid's dad right before his eyes. Oh yeah, that's gonna help him a whole lot! (And caring mom did the murders/frameup after dad decided to go straight. She obviously feels that haveing criminals on both sides of the family will be good for the kid, too.)
The writers also seem to assume that nobody watching the show has ever watched a modern police procedural. Nikki's dad punched Jessica to death. There is simply no way that Nikki can't be aware of something. Any half competent doctor would have had the cops all over the case. They would have questioned Nikki a lot. Even if dad somehow managed to beat the rap (which he obviously did) she'd have to be at least a little suspicious!
And yes, Hiro gets the best lines. (Which is a good thing.) Ando: "Hiro, you teleported!" Hiro: "No, I took the bus."
Matt: Is either an idiot of certifiable. He has a serious reading disability, but he wants a job that is, like, 90% paperwork? What the heck does he think is going to happen if he gets it?
Eden: I just didn't like the Bene Gesserit (sp?) Voice. She didn't need it for Syler last week.
Hiro: Money.
Nikki/Jessica: I thought she was an idiout, now I'm sure. She's also a hypocrite. She/they both insist that what they're doing is for the kid. So what have they done? Framed his dad for murder and grand theft. Yeah, that trauma is really gonna help him a lot! Using the 2 mil someday... The cops aren't going to drop the case until the kid's an old man. So how is she going to explain to him where the money came from, and that they have to live in a country without an extradition treaty with the US? If he's half a bright as she thinks he is, he's gonna figure it out. More trauma! She thinks she can pay off a 30 grand loan in six months. So she goes to a loan shark with known mob connections instead of waiting and actually getting the money up front. How is getting her legs broken going to help the kid? Dad gives her a big check. She gives it back. How's that gonna help the kid? She appears to be about to kill the kid's dad right before his eyes. Oh yeah, that's gonna help him a whole lot! (And caring mom did the murders/frameup after dad decided to go straight. She obviously feels that haveing criminals on both sides of the family will be good for the kid, too.)
The writers also seem to assume that nobody watching the show has ever watched a modern police procedural. Nikki's dad punched Jessica to death. There is simply no way that Nikki can't be aware of something. Any half competent doctor would have had the cops all over the case. They would have questioned Nikki a lot. Even if dad somehow managed to beat the rap (which he obviously did) she'd have to be at least a little suspicious!
And yes, Hiro gets the best lines. (Which is a good thing.) Ando: "Hiro, you teleported!" Hiro: "No, I took the bus."
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