Heroes Season 1(#10)---11/27/06-'Six Months Ago'

[Hand of Evil]

Do we yet have any idea how Suresh found Sylar and the others?

Nope, not yet.

 

[DonTadow]

I'm almost positive that Sylar can not detect heroes, at least not from a distance. Else he would already have killed Peter, Hiro and the cop. I think he's going off of the map of where the superheroes are. They played that part up really big in the episode.

Now he may be able to detect supes up close. His power is the power to detect whats broken. Remember how the doctor said that the supe gene is an abnormality, something that isn't normal.

 

[Taelorn76]

If HG isn't a power blocker why did Mr Bennett think that his mind couldn't be read by the Cop since HG was there?

Or for that matter, why couldn't Matt read his thoughts?

What the HG was doing was erasing Matt's memories as he took them from Mr Bennet.

Remember the football player didn't have any powers and Bennet told HG to make him a blank slate.

 

[DonTadow]

Ok, the writers have a lot of 'splanin to do!

Matt: Is either an idiot of certifiable. He has a serious reading disability, but he wants a job that is, like, 90% paperwork? What the heck does he think is going to happen if he gets it?

Eden: I just didn't like the Bene Gesserit (sp?) Voice. She didn't need it for Syler last week.

Hiro: Money.

Nikki/Jessica: I thought she was an idiout, now I'm sure. She's also a hypocrite. She/they both insist that what they're doing is for the kid. So what have they done? Framed his dad for murder and grand theft. Yeah, that trauma is really gonna help him a lot! Using the 2 mil someday... The cops aren't going to drop the case until the kid's an old man. So how is she going to explain to him where the money came from, and that they have to live in a country without an extradition treaty with the US? If he's half a bright as she thinks he is, he's gonna figure it out. More trauma! She thinks she can pay off a 30 grand loan in six months. So she goes to a loan shark with known mob connections instead of waiting and actually getting the money up front. How is getting her legs broken going to help the kid? Dad gives her a big check. She gives it back. How's that gonna help the kid? She appears to be about to kill the kid's dad right before his eyes. Oh yeah, that's gonna help him a whole lot! (And caring mom did the murders/frameup after dad decided to go straight. She obviously feels that haveing criminals on both sides of the family will be good for the kid, too.)

The writers also seem to assume that nobody watching the show has ever watched a modern police procedural. Nikki's dad punched Jessica to death. There is simply no way that Nikki can't be aware of something. Any half competent doctor would have had the cops all over the case. They would have questioned Nikki a lot. Even if dad somehow managed to beat the rap (which he obviously did) she'd have to be at least a little suspicious!

And yes, Hiro gets the best lines. (Which is a good thing.) Ando: "Hiro, you teleported!" Hiro: "No, I took the bus."

Woah, this is seriously critical.
Should dyslexic people become bus drivers? He wants to overcome his disability. Heck, our IT person has dyslexia. Nothing wrong with wanting to move up in your career.

The voice was the only way the audience could tell if her power still worked. WIthout the voice we'd be wondering if the Haitian was blocking her power or not. I think thats a smart move by the writers to end confusion.

Police procedural? Are you kidding me. Out of all the fantasy in this show you want me to suspend my belief that they are not Law and Ordering it up. The wrong person goes to jail all the time. A university in Illinois proved that at least 300 people just in that state were sent to death but did not commit the crime.

 

[Taelorn76]

I'm going with the theory that Sylar can analyze the brains by taking them apart, and then somehow modifies his own brain, either through his power or by physically making attunements. That could be what the baseball cap conceals: that he's used teleknesis to open (and hold together) his own skull.

Do we yet have any idea how Suresh found Sylar and the others?

I don't think that he is physicaly adding parts of others brains to his own through surgery or power. I think someone else mentioned it here, but I say his studies the other supes brains, identifies what is "broken" with them and then does the same thing to his brain.

 

[dravot]

I think Sylar has very limited range on his "brain scanning" powers. I think he does use Suresh's map, and Claire's name does get removed.

About Claire's father, Mr. Brennet... he obviously knows all about them before his encounter with Suresh. Isn't it obvious by now? ;p He is a manipulator... there is probably no one who knows what's going on in his mind, even the Haitian might be his puppet.

I'll bet that Sylar finds out about Claire-bear before Eden removes the name. All we need to do is go back to the episode where Mohinder was in Sylar's apartment (which I'll try to do tonight). Hrm...and Eden then sees Claire's name, and they then realize that she's a potential target. Add that to the paintings, and you can see how Mr. Bennet (Not Brennet) could know that Claire-bear was in trouble.

I think that just like Mohinder, Evil-Dad has no powers.

I don't think that Hiro lost his powers. He might of been too depressed to use them. The power could have restricted him going back to the same time twice or something, but I doubt it's just gone like that.

I think that he can't go back too close to himself in that time-space. There are a lot of rules that Hiro still needs to figure out.

Makes me curious though... did Hiro prevent Sylar from killing her? I don't think so. The only thing that changed was the picture.

Yeah, but if she died tragically 3 days earlier from the blood clot, especially at work, there might still be a shrine. We really don't know, we can only speculate.

 

[Umbran]

Had an interesting thought last night: we either have a plot hole, or writers who understand subtlety.

Hiro returns, mourning the fact that he cannot change the past... But he's wrong. The birthday photograph proves that he can change the past. The photo changed.

I think Hiro has just come afoul of paradox, and the Universe prevents him from causing one. If he goes back in time to save the waitress, and succeeds, then she never dies and he then has no reason to have gone back in time in the first place.

So, what Hiro cannot do is go back and change time such that his motivation for going back in time is removed.

 

[dravot]

The writers also seem to assume that nobody watching the show has ever watched a modern police procedural. Nikki's dad punched Jessica to death. There is simply no way that Nikki can't be aware of something. Any half competent doctor would have had the cops all over the case. They would have questioned Nikki a lot. Even if dad somehow managed to beat the rap (which he obviously did) she'd have to be at least a little suspicious!

We haven't seen what really happend. Maybe dad bribed the cops, or had a friend on the force. Maybe Niki merged with Jessica, leaving no evidence.

 

[dravot]

Had an interesting thought last night: we either have a plot hole, or writers who understand subtlety.

Hiro returns, mourning the fact that he cannot change the past... But he's wrong. The birthday photograph proves that he can change the past. The photo changed.

I think Hiro has just come afoul of paradox, and the Universe prevents him from causing one. If he goes back in time to save the waitress, and succeeds, then she never dies and he then has no reason to have gone back in time in the first place.

So, what Hiro cannot do is go back and change time such that his motivation for going back in time is removed.

Agreed 100%

 

[Hand of Evil]

Had an interesting thought last night: we either have a plot hole, or writers who understand subtlety.

Hiro returns, mourning the fact that he cannot change the past... But he's wrong. The birthday photograph proves that he can change the past. The photo changed.

I think Hiro has just come afoul of paradox, and the Universe prevents him from causing one. If he goes back in time to save the waitress, and succeeds, then she never dies and he then has no reason to have gone back in time in the first place.

So, what Hiro cannot do is go back and change time such that his motivation for going back in time is removed.

Which makes you wonder if the Cheerleader was really saved.

I am also wondering if they may start to Quantum Leap Hiro, or at least have him wonder about things like Sam was.