Heroes Season 1(#10)---11/27/06-'Six Months Ago'

[Flexor the Mighty!]

What the HG was doing was erasing Matt's memories as he took them from Mr Bennet.

Remember the football player didn't have any powers and Bennet told HG to make him a blank slate.

I don't think so, but we will see how it is explained in the series, if it is.

 

[Zaukrie]

I don't think Hiro's comment is that complicated. He hasn't perfected his powers, he failed, so he thinks he can't do anything about the past. I don't think his comment is any more complicated than that, lack of knowledge or experience with what he can/can't do.

 

[Kaodi]

Do you know what would be really messed up? If Nikki's power was to actually absorb entire people, and Jessica's power was super strength... So, you wouldn't have one person whos ability was based on mental disorder, but rather you literally had two people, that Jessica never really died.

Of course, that is incredibly unlikely and I don't think it's true, but I just thought I'd throw out an alternate angle...

 

[WayneLigon]

So, what Hiro cannot do is go back and change time such that his motivation for going back in time is removed.

That's an awesome idea.

 

[Umbran]

Which makes you wonder if the Cheerleader was really saved.

Yes, well, there we might be safe. Maybe Hiro got smart...

We guess that Hiro goes back in time to warn Peter, so they can save the cheerleader and the world. But what if that is wrong? Imagine, instead, that Future Hiro is going back in time because Peter tells him to.

IIRC, Future Hiro tells Peter, "When we talk, tell me where we meet". So long as Peter tells Hiro, "We meet on the subway, at such a time, and you tell me..." then Hiro has a reason to go back in time. Why Peter delivers the message may not matter, so long as he delivers it.

This is the workaround - and I expect it is difficult to produce, and dangerous. Thus the "rift" Future Hiro refers to.

 

[DonTadow]

That's an awesome idea.

But what about trying to stop the nuclear weapon. Hiro's already experienced it. Does that mean he can't change it. Wasn't his motivation of going back in time to stop the nuclear attack. If it doesnt occur, he has no reason to go back.

I started speculating monday night that nicki wasn't crazy but in fact had her supposed dead sister inside of her for real and the sister is the one with the powers.

 

[Taelorn76]

But what about trying to stop the nuclear weapon. Hiro's already experienced it. Does that mean he can't change it. Wasn't his motivation of going back in time to stop the nuclear attack. If it doesnt occur, he has no reason to go back.

He had jumped to the future and witnessed the NYC nuke. Him jumping to the past was just him returning to his right place in time.

 

[Taelorn76]

I don't think so, but we will see how it is explained in the series, if it is.

Which one are you not agreeing with?

 

[Umbran]

Wasn't his motivation of going back in time to stop the nuclear attack. If it doesnt occur, he has no reason to go back.

No reason, aside from the fact that he was already in his own future, you mean?

Recall what he does when he goes back to Japan - "Hey, Ando, I can travel in time, and here's the comic book to prove it!". That's his real motivation, and it isn't removed if the mushroom cloud never happens.

The real problem arises if the rule is, "Hiro cannot use time travel to change his own subjective past." Because he's seen the mushroom cloud, that would mean he could not stop it from happening. He might be able to save the world, as he hasn't seen that yet. But he wouldn't be able to save NYC....

 

[Fast Learner]

There is simply no way that Nikki can't be aware of something.

You're clearly ignorant of the effects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and repressed memories of abuse in general. People are very, very capable of very nearly completely repressing memories of horrible things from their past, entirely unintentionally. Our brains are capable of doing amazing things in order to attempt to retain or regain sanity, and shuttering away memories of years of abuse is one of the more common ones.