Heroes Season 1(#10)---11/27/06-'Six Months Ago'

[Taelorn76]

I think the HG is a combo power, when they took the cop, Bennett says you are trying to use your powers now. It just gave you the impression suppression was being used.

Now for this post wild and crazy thought, if Nikki/Jessica are taken by Sylar, would Nikki still be able to manifest? Sylar is sick but Nikki is down right mean, it could be a weird love!

Jessica is the mean one

 

[hafrogman]

Well, Douglas Adams approached the concept, but let's consider...
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And that's only talking about things that happen in the normal universe. If the action of time travel takes some subjective time - I step out of the universe, eat my lunch, and then step back, it gets far, far worse, as it occurs in my timeline, but not at all in yours.

Red Dwarf tried something along these lines too, but ended up cutting it from the episose because it was too convoluted.

What tense do you use when you are in the present refering to a future that you experienced in your past, but will now no longer happen because of changes in the past?

 

[Hand of Evil]

Jessica is the mean one

In in words of Willy Wonka, rewind and reverse that. Thank you.

 

[F5]

The real problem arises if the rule is, "Hiro cannot use time travel to change his own subjective past." Because he's seen the mushroom cloud, that would mean he could not stop it from happening. He might be able to save the world, as he hasn't seen that yet. But he wouldn't be able to save NYC....

I think it's signifigant that Hiro chose Peter to appear to. Why not just appear to Claire and warn her (both about Sylar and her father)? Or to Matt to have police presence at the school that night? Or any of a hundred other options?

Well, partially I think it's because Peter's the most likely to believe him. But I think the real reason is because Peter was able to mimic Hiro's power. Hiro had stopped time, but was still able to interact with Peter because, at that moment, Peter could stop time, too. That's the loophole, maybe. Paradox was averted and the past could be changed because the contact happened "outside" of time.

 

[Umbran]

Paradox was averted and the past could be changed because the contact happened "outside" of time.

That's one possibility I was referrign to when I said ti was probably difficult to set up...

 

[Hand of Evil]

I think it's signifigant that Hiro chose Peter to appear to. Why not just appear to Claire and warn her (both about Sylar and her father)? Or to Matt to have police presence at the school that night? Or any of a hundred other options?

Well, partially I think it's because Peter's the most likely to believe him. But I think the real reason is because Peter was able to mimic Hiro's power. Hiro had stopped time, but was still able to interact with Peter because, at that moment, Peter could stop time, too. That's the loophole, maybe. Paradox was averted and the past could be changed because the contact happened "outside" of time.

At which point Hiro should have told Peter to Tell Hiro to save the waitress when he calls.

 

[Ed_Laprade]

I'm pretty sure she used it on Sylar last week.

edit: yup. just re-watched that scene. She uses it.

Talk about a bad memory, I'd have sworn on a stack of DMGs that she hadn't! (Maybe Haitian Guy lives in my neiborhood?)

 

[dravot]

Talk about a bad memory, I'd have sworn on a stack of DMGs that she hadn't! (Maybe Haitian Guy lives in my neiborhood?)

She says 3 things to him, the first two are normal (paraphrased)

"We just want to talk"

"But first you need to sleep"

SLEEP

The last line is almost missed. I think that it's partially obscured by soundtrack. Not sure at the moment (that haitian guy just walked by, I think)

I think that she does the same type of thing with Matt-the-psicop, and with Evil-Dad in the flashbacks - first she speaks normally, then she uses the voice.

 

[Ed_Laprade]

Woah, this is seriously critical.
Should dyslexic people become bus drivers? He wants to overcome his disability. Heck, our IT person has dyslexia. Nothing wrong with wanting to move up in your career.

The voice was the only way the audience could tell if her power still worked. WIthout the voice we'd be wondering if the Haitian was blocking her power or not. I think thats a smart move by the writers to end confusion.

Police procedural? Are you kidding me. Out of all the fantasy in this show you want me to suspend my belief that they are not Law and Ordering it up. The wrong person goes to jail all the time. A university in Illinois proved that at least 300 people just in that state were sent to death but did not commit the crime.

What I'm saying about Matt is that he's hiding his disability and trying to get a job that requires a lot of reading and writing. Not smart. I totally think that he should be getting help for it, and was going to mention that, but got distracted by my own rant.

I didn't say Eden's Voice was a bad idea, I said I didn't like it. YMMV.

Yeah, I know that. My point was that Nikki ought to have had at least some clue that Jessica's death was not kosher, and that her dad may have had something to do with it. As someone else said, maybe she just blotted it all out.

There's a page of stuff on the show in next week's TV Guide. Some spoilers, so I won't say anything. Except that they say something a little different than was said on the trailer for next weeks show. The trailer said: "A hero will die." The TVG said that someone with a power would die. A slight, but possibly significant, difference. That would put Nikki/Jessica in the front running. She is NOT a hero!

 

[Umbran]

At which point Hiro should have told Peter to Tell Hiro to save the waitress when he calls.

The world is more important than Charlie, in particular, and the operation seems to have been risky. A hero sometimes has to pick his battles