Heroes Season [Volume] 1(#23)---5/21/07-'How to stop an Exploding Man' Season Ending.

[Man in the Funny Hat]

By the way, speaking of "turns" and taking turns on a more general level than Heroes: This is something that often happens in movies and series, especially in regards to dialogues. You rarely hear multiple people speak at the same time like it happens in the real world -> the viewer must be able to see and hear all the dialogue, and it's probably also very hard to write a scene that dynamically. (I am neither a writer or actor, but from the scripts I saw from distance, the whole interaction of a scene is described in a single flow. Lines of dialogues, followed by a short description of the action followed by lines of dialogues. Interruptions are possible, but not parallel speaking...)

The viewer does not need to see/hear all the dialogue. They only need to understand what they are intended to understand. If they are intended to be given an impression of a rapid sequence of activity and confusion then dialogue that steps over other dialogue is an excellent tool.

As for how difficult it is... well, I'm not a professional writer either - but THESE PEOPLE ARE. Getting a big, season-ending confrontation like this RIGHT is what they get paid for. Your impression of a script being dialogue-minimal action description-dialogue-minimal action description-etc. is often correct, but turning that into a dynamic scene on film is what they do week after week throughout the season. How and why they blew it when it came down to the most important scene of the year is beyond me, given how well they did up to that point.

 

[Relique du Madde]

The viewer does not need to see/hear all the dialogue. They only need to understand what they are intended to understand. If they are intended to be given an impression of a rapid sequence of activity and confusion then dialogue that steps over other dialogue is an excellent tool.

As for how difficult it is... well, I'm not a professional writer either - but THESE PEOPLE ARE. Getting a big, season-ending confrontation like this RIGHT is what they get paid for. Your impression of a script being dialogue-minimal action description-dialogue-minimal action description-etc. is often correct, but turning that into a dynamic scene on film is what they do week after week throughout the season. How and why they blew it when it came down to the most important scene of the year is beyond me, given how well they did up to that point.

Isn't it possible that the reason why that final battle happened the way it did was because they didn't want the entire battle to devolve into a flurry of activity which many movie-goers complain about? I mean, if you think about it the entire battle DID NOT take place in real time and as a result the action dragged on and its dynamic flow "fell appart." (It doesn't help that every character who wasn't important to each shot was completely out of the frame which helps destroy any time context).
In effect, what we saw that the "RPG" version of the battle rather then the real-time version of the battle itself. If you were to place any real context of how long the battle took you wouyld have to cut out any shot that doesn't take place on sylar/peter time (while taking into consideration that some events which occure in sylar/peter time overlap).

 

[Vocenoctum]

Isn't it possible that the reason why that final battle happened the way it did was because they didn't want the entire battle to devolve into a flurry of activity which many movie-goers complain about? I mean, if you think about it the entire battle DID NOT take place in real time and as a result the action dragged on and its dynamic flow "fell appart." (It doesn't help that every character who wasn't important to each shot was completely out of the frame which helps destroy any time context).
In effect, what we saw that the "RPG" version of the battle rather then the real-time version of the battle itself. If you were to place any real context of how long the battle took you wouyld have to cut out any shot that doesn't take place on sylar/peter time (while taking into consideration that some events which occure in sylar/peter time overlap).

Entirely possible, maybe even plausible, but still seems a bad story. Granted 5YrPeter and 5YrHiro cutting a swath through bunchs of guards isn't directly proportional to a true battle between Powered Folks, but the Jessica/ Parkman battle was fun enough, I think.

Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but I think it's nearly universal that folks went "oh cool!" when 5YrSylar and 5YrPeter faced off, and most would regard that has better than the final confrontation. Sure, Vader forcechoked a guy, but we didn't label that a "climactic battle", and Sylar holding Peter was likewise boring.

Anyway, this comes down to some of us thinking the final episode had writing/ pacing/ story problems, and others trying to justify those actions in the world as presented. If the material doesn't stand on it's own, that's a problem as much as anything. I think the show, moving forward, would be better served by correcting those mistakes, rather than justifying how they "weren't mistakes".

 

[Ranger REG]

Does anyone know who Molly refers to when she said there is someone worse than Sylar that she fears?

 

[John Crichton]

Does anyone know who Molly refers to when she said there is someone worse than Sylar that she fears?

The BBEG for season 2. Yet to be named.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

By the way, there was a part of the dialogue between Nathan and his mother I didn't get entirely.
After she told him that Linderman was dead but this wouldn't change anything, she said something like
"You know the congressman" or "You are now congressman". I don't know which of these they said. If the former, this could mean there is yet another one higher up in the scheme of things (which might be the same badguy as Molly refers to, or just be a "parallel" villain, the season 2 equivalent to Sylar)

 

[F5]

As for Bennett coaching Parkman on how to take Sylar down, Bennett HAS shot Sylar, and injured him. When he confronts Sylar in his house, he fires several shots which connect, and put him down, even though they don't actually kill him (or, even incapacitate him to any real extent). Still, in Bennett's confrontation with Sylar, the gun was NOT completely ineffective, so it's fair to assume from his own experiences that he wouldn't have coached Parkman not to bother shooting. The reason it worked for Bennett and not for Parkman was that Bennett took Sylar by surprise; he just burst in the door shooting. Sylar knew Bennett and Parkman were there (he had just TK-thrown Bennett across the plaza), so he had plenty of warning before Parkman started shooting, and was able to TK-grab the bullets.

Still, I agree that the editing and direction on that final scene were not good. Coreographing that kind of FX-heavy fight with multiple participants is tough. They should have brought in a guest-director or consultant for that scene, someone with cinematic experience, butt hey didn't. Hopefully, they'll get better in Season 2...

Last, I have a theory as to why Peter didn't stop time or use any other funky power in his fight with Sylar. He had just absorbed Nikki's strength. Like he does whenever he encounters a new, innate power for the first time, he uses it without thinking (Claire's regen, Claude's invisibility, etc). His empathic instinct at the moment was to pummel Sylar with his new, mighty fists, so that's what he did.

 

[F5]

After she told him that Linderman was dead but this wouldn't change anything, she said something like
"You know the congressman" or "You are now congressman".

I think the line there was more like, "You know that, don't you, congressman?"

She was reinforcing that he had gotten what he wanted, and been put into position, and now it was time for him to live up to his part of The Plan.

At least, that's how I intepereted it.

(Sorry for the double-post)

 

[Ed_Laprade]

Next weeks TV Guide has a blurb about why Peter didn't fly off by himself. We weren't supposed to notice that!!!

 

[Vocenoctum]

Does anyone know who Molly refers to when she said there is someone worse than Sylar that she fears?

Theoretically a villain for next time, or maybe the Haitian.

Timing wise, they dont' detail when Molly developed the sickness enough to cut off her powers. I assume she must have had them at some point while with The Company, and they asked her to track a few people. Perhaps one of them was Claude and he's the guy, but doubt it.

Perhaps The Dark One can infect disease from a distance when he detects meddling children scrying him? It goes well with his roach minions that steal corpses!