Heroes Vol 5 #15:Closer to You/Season 4/2010

[Darth Shoju]

As much as I feel silly defending the show (since I used to complain about it all the time), I think at least a few of your critiques were unfair.

First, Hiro has a brain tumor or something, sure, but his brain was addled by the carnie guy. It wasn't addled by the tumor.

And it was curable by being blasted in the head by red lightning? I mean, that's pretty clearly just another way for the writers to conveniently neuter Hiro's powers and then bring them back when they need them -- just like they've been doing since the show began. And it was ridiculous.

Second, the deaf woman has a lot of sound-themed powers. See sound, blast with it, and charm people. So like a bard or something. That's all reasonable. I'm guessing Ma Patrelli saw a vision of the deaf woman's power interacting with someone else's power in a way that leads to lots of folks dying.

Great, she has sound-based powers, but that's still pretty vague. And we've had how many episodes of her sitting around and displaying those powers ad nauseum? Is it too much to ask that something happen with her and those powers? This whole "she's going to kill thousands" just dropped out of bloody nowhere and feels pretty familiar. If they're going to recycle the same crises in each season, it would be nice if they would foreshadow it some more (then again, I guess they don't have to at this point...we should just assume something like that will happen).

But when Peter had the vague vision of her playing the cello, and his first response was to go to her apartment and break the damned thing, I actually cheered, because that's a perfectly rational response to seeing the future and thinking you can change it. It's like something my players would do. "Oh, so she's gonna use that cello to do something bad. Well, easiest solution is to just break the durned thing."

Then they find out Samuel has like 5 more just like it.

I wish I could remember this episode more clearly, but why did Ma Petrelli show up at that girl's appartment while Peter was there? So Peter could grab her dream power to find out he had to smash the cello? Why did he decide it was the cello that was causing the problem and not her? Running in and smashing it without explanation was the best course of action he could come up with?

Not great, no. Parkman either should be in prison, or should have had his wife joke about, "You're lucky you can mind control people to forget all that crap you did." Noah Bennet apparently jet set from NY to LA to NY in one day, and still had time to chase Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium. And I don't know what the tattooed woman's powers are either, but I don't know if she actually contacted Peter. I'm guessing, like, she can let people see things.

Okay.

But obviously the carnival teleports

I assumed as much. But that seems like it would make it tough to do business. It also must not be teleporting too far away, since it always appears to be in the California hills, and Claire and the others don't seem to have too much trouble driving to it. I'm guessing it doesn't teleport with customers in it.

Again, I wish I could remember more about this episode and season so I could provide a more robust discusssion, but it's all a blur of confusion and mediocrity to me.

I mean, really, what on earth is happening on this show?

 

[theT0rmented]

Great, she has sound-based powers, but that's still pretty vague. And we've had how many episodes of her sitting around and displaying those powers ad nauseum? Is it too much to ask that something happen with her and those powers? This whole "she's going to kill thousands" just dropped out of bloody nowhere and feels pretty familiar. If they're going to recycle the same crises in each season, it would be nice if they would foreshadow it some more (then again, I guess they don't have to at this point...we should just assume something like that will happen).

Well, the first time she played the cello in the park (when Peter first noticed her, IIRC) it did draw people to her. Now, whether it was part of the power of the beauty of her music isn't really clear, but it did have that effect. Maybe, with concentration, she can actively draw people to her. Sort of like she did (or thinks she did) with Peter.

I do agree that the "she's going to kill thousands" things came out of nowhere, seemingly just to add tension in the story.

I wish I could remember this episode more clearly, but why did Ma Petrelli show up at that girl's appartment while Peter was there? So Peter could grab her dream power to find out he had to smash the cello? Why did he decide it was the cello that was causing the problem and not her? Running in and smashing it without explanation was the best course of action he could come up with?

They were actually at Peter's apartment. They didn't show them going there (maybe time edits), so it was confusing. But it was definitely Peter's apartment.

 

[RangerWickett]

It is a little off-putting not knowing even vaguely what Samuel's plan is, but I figured he was trying to recruit her as part of it.

 

[Dire Bare]

It is a little off-putting not knowing even vaguely what Samuel's plan is, but I figured he was trying to recruit her as part of it.

We don't know the full extent of Samuel's plan, or all the details of how he plans on making it happen . . . but we've been given a lot of clues . . .

Samuel's powers seem to grow when he is surrounded by more specials. So, while his power over earth is dangerous on it's own, it is catastrophically dangerous in a place like the carnival, or the government facility where he was born. Part of his plan is to recruit more and more specials to join his cause, both to increase his personal power and also to "save" them from the mundane world.

Samuel plans on creating a "homeland" for specials, a place where specials can be themselves and live without fear. Many of his recruits directly tie into this, such as Homeless Green Thumb Man.

It also seems that Samuel may be planning on some sort of catastrophe to scare the normals and keep them away from his new homeland . . . . or perhaps worse . . .

 

[Mark]

I'm going with perpetually floating homeland or displaced from time and space homeland. Get green thumb to make something then move it somewhere safe, perhaps that's where Charlie is.