Doug McCrae
Legend
Levels of warrior are under CRed, imo.IuztheEvil said:
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Jason Bulmahn
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Quartz said:
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While I can certainly agree with a number of your points, if the PCs have fought most of the combats up to this point, they should be at 2nd level by the time they face Greypelt. When we playtested this, they certainly had and did not have too much trouble with the worg. When I ran it again this weekend for Free RPG Day, we had the same result.
Of course, this is the big fight at the end of the module... it is supposed to be a little tough. It is always your perogative to change things up. Making him a normal worg is not really out of the question I suppose.
Of course, this is the big fight at the end of the module... it is supposed to be a little tough. It is always your perogative to change things up. Making him a normal worg is not really out of the question I suppose.
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Mark CMG
Creative Mountain Games
Quartz said:
Greypelt is not necessarily going to be a fighting encounter. There is plenty of text to show that if not immediately engaged in combat, Greypelt is just as apt to utilize these bipedal intruders to help him clear the rest of the complex which he has more or less claimed as his lair. The thing in the tower, around the rocks, in the sanctuary, all are threats to Greypelt, or at the least a threat to his minions.
As it happens, my PCs trapped him and two wolves in the two rooms by jamming the door. Then once they had cleared the rest of the complex, they went back. I decided Greypelt would threaten them but be open to negotiations. Once they told him what it was they wanted (enough mushrooms to bring them up to seven), it was a no brainer that he was going to make the deal. Greypelt does not know what level they are. Greypelt had also already lost several wolves (a random encounter out in the Vale) and did not want to lose any more of them, as minions of that kind are not an inexhaustible supply (or he would obviously have more of them). Even if he killed the PCs, if they killed even one more of his wolves, Greypelt is more vulnerable to other incursions. Greypelt is no genius, granted, but his instinctual nature knows that a wolf leader is only as strong as the pack.
Can it be a tough encounter to approach as one for combat? Absolutely! Too tough for a sleep spell, which I think you always have to design against for the BBEG of a low level adventure (nothing more anticlimatic than a snoozing evil genius). A tanglefoot bag would be helpful, for PCs who have pooled their cash and invested in one. Good damage dealt out in an opening round would certainly put Greypelt on his heels. I think, if pressed, it is the type of encounter where PCs really want to avoid combat but should be able to impress the creature that they are dangerous enough to be more trouble that they are worth.
As it happens, my PCs trapped him and two wolves in the two rooms by jamming the door. Then once they had cleared the rest of the complex, they went back. I decided Greypelt would threaten them but be open to negotiations. Once they told him what it was they wanted (enough mushrooms to bring them up to seven), it was a no brainer that he was going to make the deal. Greypelt does not know what level they are. Greypelt had also already lost several wolves (a random encounter out in the Vale) and did not want to lose any more of them, as minions of that kind are not an inexhaustible supply (or he would obviously have more of them). Even if he killed the PCs, if they killed even one more of his wolves, Greypelt is more vulnerable to other incursions. Greypelt is no genius, granted, but his instinctual nature knows that a wolf leader is only as strong as the pack.
Can it be a tough encounter to approach as one for combat? Absolutely! Too tough for a sleep spell, which I think you always have to design against for the BBEG of a low level adventure (nothing more anticlimatic than a snoozing evil genius). A tanglefoot bag would be helpful, for PCs who have pooled their cash and invested in one. Good damage dealt out in an opening round would certainly put Greypelt on his heels. I think, if pressed, it is the type of encounter where PCs really want to avoid combat but should be able to impress the creature that they are dangerous enough to be more trouble that they are worth.
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Erik Mona said:
Your interior illustrator deserves mad props. Great battle with the lurkers illustration and that wolf looks mean!
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EricNoah
Adventurer
I just got my print copy in the mail today -- it looks even better than in PDF. 
If you're taking suggestions...
1) The paper is a bit more shiny/slick than I would like -- I am concerned that it won't take my hand-written notes well during the game. Not a huge deal, I can certainly use post-its or whatever.
2) Anything you can do to keep stat blocks together on the same page (or at least avoiding a split from an odd page to an even page, forcing page flipping during an encounter) would be helpful. As I'm looking it over it appears this only happens once (p. 15-16) so it's maybe not a big concern at all.
And out of curiosity (spoiler)...
If you're taking suggestions...
1) The paper is a bit more shiny/slick than I would like -- I am concerned that it won't take my hand-written notes well during the game. Not a huge deal, I can certainly use post-its or whatever.
2) Anything you can do to keep stat blocks together on the same page (or at least avoiding a split from an odd page to an even page, forcing page flipping during an encounter) would be helpful. As I'm looking it over it appears this only happens once (p. 15-16) so it's maybe not a big concern at all.
And out of curiosity (spoiler)...
What did adding 2 levels of warrior accomplish mechanically that simply advancing the worg would not? Just curious.
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GreatLemur
Explorer
Quartz said:
A creature's primary attack gets 1.5 times its Strength bonus added to it, as if it was using a two-handed weapon. Yeah, I think it's weird, too.
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