D&D (2024) How do we feel about 2024 Feats? (Origin vs Others)

[abirdcall]

You are correct. My bad. Thank you!

Corrections, and I'm not going to bother with the calculation for 2d4 and 2d6:
d4: average improves from 2.5 to 3.12 (+0.62)
d6: average improves from 3.5 to 4.47 (+0.97)
d8: average improves from 4.5 to 5.81 (+1.31)
d10: average improves from 5.5 to 7.15 (+1.65)
d12: average improves from 6.5 to 8.47 (+1.97)

So with the above average improvement, I'd say that Savage Attacker should instead give +1 damage with one-handed melee weapons, and +2 damage with two-handed melee weapons. That would make it simpler and worth taking, while not being over-powered IMHO.

Average damage is not the only factor.

When you roll a 1 on a d12 it improves the damage on that attack by a lot. And that can often be the difference between felling the monster or not.

Savage Attacker has some benefit on a turn where all damage was above average since it isn't a reroll but that isn't when the damage is important.

Attacks that deal a lot of upfront damage with less on subsequent rounds are better than ones that are even across all rounds because early damage is better.

It is also stronger with Crits and with plentiful advantage and a better champion there will be more Crits in 2024.

 

[FrogReaver]

You are correct. My bad. Thank you!

Corrections, and I'm not going to bother with the calculation for 2d4 and 2d6:
d4: average improves from 2.5 to 3.12 (+0.62)
d6: average improves from 3.5 to 4.47 (+0.97)
d8: average improves from 4.5 to 5.81 (+1.31)
d10: average improves from 5.5 to 7.15 (+1.65)
d12: average improves from 6.5 to 8.47 (+1.97)

So with the above average improvement, I'd say that Savage Attacker should instead give +1 damage with one-handed melee weapons, and +2 damage with two-handed melee weapons. That would make it simpler and worth taking, while not being over-powered IMHO.

I think the feat becomes a must have at +2 damage per attack.

 

[Tessarael]

I think the feat becomes a must have at +2 damage per attack.

Or make Savage Attacker +1 to melee weapon damage when you hit as part of your attack action, with your main hand or two-handed. That significantly reduces its effectiveness. Still worth taking as an origin feat for melee attackers.

That's not as good as what I would give for the Great Weapon Fighting style, which would be +2 damage with a two-handed melee weapon, and it's considerably weaker than the 2024 Great Weapon Master feat, which gives bonus damage of your proficiency bonus with a heavy weapon when you hit as part of the attack action + hew to attack again as a bonus action after a critical hit or reducing a creature to 0 HP + increasing your Strength +1.

And honestly as a melee attacker, I'd still much prefer the Tough origin feat for +2 HP/level. Better to be less squishy and have more staying power, unless you already have really high AC and/or really high HP

 

[ECMO3]

and most are not worth +1 ASI, yes, looking at your GWF and that one that got you extra maneuver and one extra dice.

I love Superior Technique Fighting Style. That was my favorite 2014 Fighting Style (unfortunately no longer available).

I also thought Martial Adept was a pretty cool feat.

 

[Horwath]

I love Superior Technique Fighting Style. That was my favorite 2014 Fighting Style (unfortunately no longer available).

style gave you +1d6 damage per short rest. that is 3,5 damage for lets say 2 combats for 4 rounds each.
that is +0,44 damage per round, 0,88 if you wait to fish for a crit. and some possible minor rider.

only works somewhat with battlemaster as it gives you more option as it is good to pile on a heap that you already have and making it bigger and if you are using 2Hander melee and GWF style is somehow even worse than this.
That's it.

I also thought Martial Adept was a pretty cool feat.

same as above, but at least you get to pick between 2 maneuvers to spend ONE die!

style and feat should be atleast 3 maneuvers known and 2 dice, starting at d8.
then maybe it would be worth something.