Fair enough. I get what you are saying, I truly do. But it was irritating enough for us to recalculate everything that we were happy we didn't need to do that as much with 4e. Our games would stop as everyone calculated buffs right before the combat. The math wasn't complicated at all. But, it wasn't fun for us.
I also understand you weren't necessarily trying to be insulting. I appreciate you clarified your point some. My response was snippier than it needed to be. I think I must be having a bad day and not knowing, because everything I say comes out crabby, vague, and confrontational.
I don't see the net loss here. As much as I love 4e (and I do truly enjoy the game) there are some things that were lost in the translation. This just isn't one of those things for me.
I can respect this is something that you enjoyed about the game. Truly I can. It just wasn't for us.