How intellingent is a skeleton with a 13 Int?

[Pax]

That looks more like it: an IQ of over 130 is regarded as really intelligent, and 13 doesn't reflect that in any way.

Actually, no.

From IQ Facts:

Intelligence test scores follow an approximately normal distribution, meaning that most people score near the middle of the distribution of scores and that scores drop off fairly rapidly in frequency as one moves in either direction from the centre. For example, on the IQ scale, about two out of three scores fall between IQs of 85 and 115, and about 19 out of 20 scores fall between 70 and 130. Put another way, only one out of 20 scores differs from the average IQ (100) by more than 30 points.

And IQ of 100-110 is roughly average; 110-120 is "above average", 120-130 is "bright", 130-140 is "very bright", 140-150 is "superior", and so on.

So a 130 IQ is NOT all that intelligent compared to teh average person.

Take two fifteen-year-olds. One has an IQ of 100, the other an IQ odf 130. The first youth is pretty much an average fifteen-year-old; the second is intellectually developed to the point expected for an average 19-to-20 year old.

Simply being more widely READ, can actually influence one's IQ score to that degree. Or being better at mathematics. You see, academics DO factor in. You don't have to be espeially intelligent to be an honors student, you just have to put the work in.

But being a straight-A honors student probably WILL boost your IQ by 10 or more points, due solely to your resulting greater knowledge base.

A direct 10xINT scale is more swallowable than the "same bell curve" scale posted above. MUCH more, even though it doesn't (as true IQ test batteries do) factor in social-aptitude, nor intuitive functioning.

 

[TwoSix]

Try { [ 2 x ( INT + WIS ) ] + CHA } / 4 ... then multiply hte result by 10. An average person (with 10's in all scores) gets a 100 IQ, as it should be.

Actually, your formula is still a bit off.

[2 x (10 + 10) + 10] / 4

[2 x (20) + 10] / 4

[50] / 4 = 12.5

Or, a 125 IQ.

Better to make it { [ 2 x (INT x WIS) ] + CHA} / 5.

 

[clark411]

Using IQ is pretty much a baddy with anything non-human. trying to compare an IQ of a 30 year old human (with a 30 year old mental age) and a 876 year old ghoul (with a 876 year old mental age) just doesn't work. Both have the same IQ- but I'd reckon they aren't the same in the least in terms of what makes INT so.. INT-y. IQ shouldn't extend into the realm of things with lifespans much shorter than, or much longer than, an average human's. Lets not even get into the reprocussions of a fantasy / medieval setting on the equations.

 

[Pax]

Actually, your formula is still a bit off.

[2 x (10 + 10) + 10] / 4

[2 x (20) + 10] / 4

[50] / 4 = 12.5

Or, a 125 IQ.

Better to make it { [ 2 x (INT x WIS) ] + CHA} / 5.

I suppose, but ... divided by five, and you really might as well not weight against Charisma at all. Anyway, I never said the formula I presented was perfect ... just better than the (IMO) farce posted prior to mine.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I suppose, but ... divided by five, and you really might as well not weight against Charisma at all.

Check the braces.

Charisma is weighted half what Int and Wis are, not a tenth.

... at least, that's assuming that "Int x Wis" is a typo for "Int + Wis".

-Hyp.

 

[Tonguez]

personally I like my 175 IQ being likened to a Int 24.5

 

[Hypersmurf]

Sean K Reynolds points out :

Carrying Capacity: Note that carrying capacity doubles every 5 points your Strength increases, so every 5 point increase in Strength means your Strength has doubled. The same goes for other ability scores. So, if you want to convert a magic item that doubled a character's Dexterity (or whatever), don't double the score, just increase it by +5.

"The same goes for other ability scores" suggests that a person with Int 15 is twice as intelligent as a person with Int 10, and a person with Int 20 is four times as intelligent as a person with Int 10.

Whether this has any bearing on IQ or not, I have no idea

-Hyp.

 

[Tewligan]

personally I like my 175 IQ being likened to a Int 24.5

Check out the big brain on Brad.

 

[dcollins]

IQ shouldn't extend into the realm of things with lifespans much shorter than, or much longer than, an average human's.

Your opinion is counter to that of the original designer of D&D and the INT score, and wrote otherwise in the original MM1 and MM2, et. al. (per my post above).

 

[Pax]

"The same goes for other ability scores" suggests that a person with Int 15 is twice as intelligent as a person with Int 10, and a person with Int 20 is four times as intelligent as a person with Int 10.

Whether this has any bearing on IQ or not, I have no idea

-Hyp.

Actually, yes it would. It would mean, still using the flawed assumption that IQ qould be solely INT-dependant:

INT 10 = IQ 100
INT 15 = IQ 200
INT 20 = IQ 400
INT 25 = IQ 800
INT 30 = IQ 1600
... etc, etc ...

(which, by the by, is plain silly IMHO).