D&D (2024) How many classes do you want to see this edition?

[Horwath]

Wait... so you want a warrior mage to be added... but the Hexblade warlock-- ostensibly a warrior mage-- you want merged into the wizard? That seems counter-intuitive.

Some merger of half-caster eldritch knight might be the idea:

Extra attack feature that can cast one cantrip instead of one attack(bladesinger style), plus weapon attack as bonus action when you cast a spell with your action(EK style).

 

[CreamCloud0]

Wait... so you want a warrior mage to be added... but the Hexblade warlock-- ostensibly a warrior mage-- you want merged into the wizard? That seems counter-intuitive.

While I don’t agree with the premise of merging the three casters I presume the logic is that the hexblade is only a single subclass whereas a warrior-mage would be an entire class with its own subclasses to explore different versions of the swordmage concept in more depth and variety.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

Wait... so you want a warrior mage to be added... but the Hexblade warlock-- ostensibly a warrior mage-- you want merged into the wizard? That seems counter-intuitive.

For a lot of tables, theme isn't so easy to reflavour. I know from your comments in other threads that your table seems to play pretty fast and loose with the rules, giving you a lot more flexibility.

Lots of people want to be an arcane swordmage without a shadow patron sword baked in. But a lot of tables will absolutely force that theme if the player picks hexblade.

 

[Parmandur]

For a lot of tables, theme isn't so easy to reflavour. I know from your comments in other threads that your table seems to play pretty fast and loose with the rules, giving you a lot more flexibility.

Lots of people want to be an arcane swordmage without a shadow patron sword baked in. But a lot of tables will absolutely force that theme if the player picks hexblade.

To be fair, playing loose like that is explicitly in Xanathar's Guide to Everything: that's the RAW approach, not flavor enforcement.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

While I don’t agree with the premise of merging the three casters I presume the logic is that the hexblade is only a single subclass whereas a warrior-mage would be an entire class with its own subclasses to explore different versions of the swordmage concept in more depth and variety.

Ideally for me, Bladesinger, EK, and Hexblade would end up as subclasses for a dedicated arcane gish class.

Along with an elemental themed subclass, and one themed like a WoW Death Knight type thing (seriously we don't have a single cold themed subclass in all of 5e).

 

[Yaarel]

Ideally for me, Bladesinger, EK, and Hexblade would end up as subclasses for a dedicated arcane gish class.

I wouldnt mind a new class that is an arcane half-caster that takes over Eldritch Knight, Hexblade, and Psi Warrior, maybe even the elemental Monk. If it also has subclasses that add spell slots to become a full caster for Bladesinger, Hexblade, and 4e Swordmage, even better.

The fact that so many classes and subclasses are in need of this shows there is plenty of flavors to flesh out a great class and subclasses.

 

[Clint_L]

Well, they aren't going to be removing any classes for OneD&D, because nothing says "not backwards compatible" like your character's class no longer existing. Though if I was designing a new expansion from the ground up I would make sorcerers a mage sub-class.

Realistically, we will get the same classes and probably new sub-classes eventually.

 

[Minigiant]

I just wanna make a mad scientist who has a Hyde potion in one hand, an explosive fire potion in other hand, and healing potions in the last.

So I'm in the a few more group.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

Well, they aren't going to be removing any classes for OneD&D, because nothing says "not backwards compatible" like your character's class no longer existing. Though if I was designing a new expansion from the ground up I would make sorcerers a mage sub-class.

Realistically, we will get the same classes and probably new sub-classes eventually.

Though I disagree with folding sorcerers into a subclass, If I had to merge them with another class, it would be warlock.

They already have all the same subclass themes. Divine Soul - Celestial Warlock, Aberrent Mind - Goolock, Shadow Sorcery - Hexblade.

Anything which can be a patron can also be a sorcerer subclass. The most talked about being the idea of a draconic patron for warlocks.

 

[CreamCloud0]

Sorcerer and warlock both have their own unique mechanics to them that make them play in their own ways, plus the bard has its jack of all trades thing going on, if anything I’d rather alter the wizard as it lacks its own defining feature beyond more spells, more slots, just more more, I’ve stated in threads before I’d rather strip the wizard of it’s levelled direct damage spells and make it a pure utility/control caster but i know that would be rejected as heresy against the class.