How soon do you want more classes?

[Ethalias]

WotC_Miko said the Bard was an arcane leader here.

I've got all the info I can find on upcoming classes compiled here, with sources.

Good effort, thanks

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

As they have stated you do not need every role covered in a party, don't worry about it

In my ongoing (3 years) Planescape campaign, we have already converted (and played) the characters to 4th Ed, 1 Defender (fighter) and 2 Strikers (rogue and warlock), and it's working our just beautifully.

The trick to deal with "unbalanced" party is to tailor encounters for them.m Sometimes, you make them intentional hard by targeting their weakness, but most of the time, you'll try to ensure that the encounters play to their strength. That did also apply in 3E.

The problem will always be published adventures that assume balanced parties, covering all 4 roles. This was a problem in 3E, and doesn't seem to go away in 4E. (4E has the advantage that it's a little easier to cover the roles by default without being limited to just one class. No class could really substitute a Cleric for healing purposes...)

 

[ProfessorCirno]

I'd go so far as to say that Wizards needs to get those classes out as soon as possible for the sake of 4e. Like or hate the new narrower classes, there's simply far less then there is in any other book, and plenty of people support 4e while being very upset about the lack of classes. The longer Wizards takes to belt out more - specifically the old Core ones - the more ire is going to be raised at them. Then there's players who can't carry their 3e characters over to 4e and are waiting for the druid or the bard to come out. The longer they wait, the faster they lose interest.

 

[Cryptos]

People might want to keep in mind that in just one year and change, we'll have eighteen classes. PHB1 8 + PBH2 8 + FR Swordmage 1 + Eberron / DragonMag Artificer = 18.

That's quite a big expansion for a single year. The first year, at that. Let them have all the time they need for anything else so that they can try to get it right.

Also, I hope they don't spread out the material for the various power sources through all the PHBs. Consider:

PHB1 - Arcane, Divine and Martial Heroes.

(Martial heroes more or less complete, maybe a class here or there in setting books.)

PHB2 - Should just be Arcane, Divine, and Primal, if you ask me. I like psionics, but Arcane, Divine, Primal and Psionic Heroes is getting to be a bit much. And if they do that, then they probably leave out planned classes or have large role gaps in divine, primal and psionic, so we wind up with...

PHB3 through PHB5 - The All the Things We Didn't Do Yet From All the Sources We've Already Done, Elemental, and Shadow Heroes.

Please keep them relatively contained or this quickly turns into a joke.

 

[Steely Dan]

The problem will always be published adventures that assume balanced parties, covering all 4 roles.

Yeah, I guess you have a point, in my 20 or so years of DMing I have never used a published module.

Oh, sorry, once I did run the Ravenloft module Touch of Death one afternoon while we were barbequing back in 1993 (none of us considered it as serious as our ongoing campaign).

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Yeah, I guess you have a point, in my 20 or so years of DMing I have never used a published module.

Oh, sorry, once I did run the Ravenloft module Touch of Death one afternoon while we were barbequing back in 1993 (none of us considered it as serious as our ongoing campaign).

Well, I used to rely on homebrew adventures, but the rest of my group does. Despite the fact that 4E looks easier to DM then ever, it's me that has now picked up the first published module (Keep on the Shadowfell). I don't know yet if I want to homebrew something or just see where the books lead me. I guess my players wouldn't mind me running more published modules instead of my homebrew attempts.

 

[Steely Dan]

PHB2 - Should just be Arcane, Divine, and Primal, if you ask me. I like psionics, but Arcane, Divine, Primal and Psionic Heroes is getting to be a bit much. And if they do that, then they probably leave out planned classes or have large role gaps in divine, primal and psionic, so we wind up with...

PHB3 through PHB5 - The All the Things We Didn't Do Yet From All the Sources We've Already Done, Elemental, and Shadow Heroes.

And don't forget Ki (monk)!

And I do believe we will see the Psionic power source in the PHB II, actually, I'm almost positive as Eberron comes out next year.

Maybe the bard (arcane) and sorcerer (arcane) will be released on the DDI, and the PHB II will be:

Player's Handbook II: Primal, Psioinc and Shadow Heroes


But then what about the monk (Ki)?

 

[Mokona]

Bump. . .