D&D 5E How would YOU build Vecna?

[dave2008]

OK @Reynard, @Audiomancer , @Thomas Rainsborough and others, here is my take on the: Archlich Vecna.

Deity version to come later.

Edit: This is for @Erdric Dragin too!

 

[Reynard]

OK @Reynard and @Thomas Rainsborough and others, here is my take on the Archlich Vecna. Deity version to come later.

Notes:

1. That image is AWESOME. Source?
2. Turn resistance says Acererak.
3. I feel like Rotten Fate needs a recharge as well.
4. Is the Shield reaction intended to be his casting the Shield spell. if so, make explicit.

More generally: I still don't like a long list of spells I have to look up in the middle of combat. Otherwise I like it. The save boost was sorely needed. I would give him magic resistance, too.

 

[dave2008]

Notes:

1. That image is AWESOME. Source?

Update with source link (I was rushing to post it before I had to run an errand)

2. Turn resistance says Acererak.

Corrected - thanks

3. I feel like Rotten Fate needs a recharge as well.

No needed IMO. It would be a nerf to make a recharge, but if you want him to use his more traditional spells, then sure, make it a recharge.

4. Is the Shield reaction intended to be his casting the Shield spell. if so, make explicit.

It is in his list of spells and noted with an asterisk and note. I feel that explains it, but I clarified it a bit more.

More generally: I still don't like a long list of spells I have to look up in the middle of combat. Otherwise I like it. The save boost was sorely needed. I would give him magic resistance, too.

I agree, but several people on this board seem to want them. I noted all spells with an Asterisk I assumed when calculating the CR and the description of those spells is included in stat block. You get 5 spells described, plus 5 additional unique magical abilities. That seems to cover a lot of ground to me.

 

[CleverNickName]

In my campaign the gods are gods, they don't have (or need) stats. They are lofty beings who have long transcended mortal concerns like "life," "death," and "victory."

 

[Reynard]

In my campaign the gods are gods, they don't have (or need) stats. They are lofty beings who have long transcended mortal concerns like "life," "death," and "victory."

Gods are boring and not especially useful for play, so I much prefer the epic level arch lich.

 

[Thomas Rainsborough]

Gods are boring and not especially useful for play, so I much prefer the epic level arch lich.

Gods are indeed not supposed to be played. They literally with a raised eyebrow can blink out of existence a char, their kids, their parents, even those who owed the char money. If your eye and hand are so powerful to last an eternity, with the amount of power they possess, yeah, you may not be a good, but you are someone that only 20th level chars should trifle with.

 

[Reynard]

Gods are indeed not supposed to be played. They literally with a raised eyebrow can blink out of existence a char, their kids, their parents, even those who owed the char money. If your eye and hand are so powerful to last an eternity, with the amount of power they possess, yeah, you may not be a good, but you are someone that only 20th level chars should trifle with.

So we stat the thing we want the characters to fight, not the thing that just hand handwave reality. Although I would contend that in MANY D&D world's, the gods are not omnipotent because they take their cues from Western mythological traditions (Norse, Greek, and others) in which there are many instances of mortal besting or at least standing up to the gods.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I'd build him using specialized Avatars of various strengths that serve various functions and embody different aspects of Vecna and divinities he's assimulated.

 

[dave2008]

They are lofty beings who have long transcended mortal concerns like "life," "death," and "victory."

Sure, but you can still give them stats!

 

[CleverNickName]

Sure, but you can still give them stats!

Sure, but how do you type the infinity symbol?