I hate to tell you...
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Stone Angel
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Maybe it is a DnD guru's evil twin. No seriously this guy's view is skewed, twisted. Not to defend him but maybe he had a personal experience we don't know about. Anyway it is quite concievable that a group of persona's get together and have a good time. It is a hobby like cards or a garden club. You know some people even make a living. If this Chick guy is a practicing preacher or minister I feel sorry for his congregation and the area surrounding it.
"Dungeons and Dragons is bad, Catholics are going to hell, Rock and Roll is the symphony of Lucifer. Get left get right, get off the path to fire and brimstone. Chess is bad, TV is bad, Comics books contain hidden messages of Satanic apocrypha. If you are not here in these pews, in this very church, listening to me, and only me then I feel for your soul. etc, etc, etc...."
Sorry about the rant. I wonder how much "actuall" research he does. Or maybe he just found a work horse and used it to get his name out there.
"Dungeons and Dragons is bad, Catholics are going to hell, Rock and Roll is the symphony of Lucifer. Get left get right, get off the path to fire and brimstone. Chess is bad, TV is bad, Comics books contain hidden messages of Satanic apocrypha. If you are not here in these pews, in this very church, listening to me, and only me then I feel for your soul. etc, etc, etc...."
Sorry about the rant. I wonder how much "actuall" research he does. Or maybe he just found a work horse and used it to get his name out there.
Jemal
Adventurer
All I can say is that I feel very sorry for this poor Mr. Chick. After all the hate-filled propoganda he spends his time spewing, he has much less of a chance of getting into heaven than us 'devil-worshipping suicidal lunatics'.
OH, BTW, sent a little e-mail to the administrators of that website. (I found a link saying "Have you found a problem on our site" and sent this to that). Tell me what you think:
"The problem is that your little 'comic' portrays people who play the DND game as evil, stupid, and unfit. It's nothing more than an ignorant, lopsided view, and it's the same way white people thought about blacks a hundred years ago. I just pray that you will find it within you to see through your hatred and mistrust, and realize that things are not evil just because they are different."
ON another note, you should check out http://www.chick.com/articles/dnd.asp
and
http://www.chick.com/articles/frpg.asp
both are articles on DnD by William Schnoebelen, and weirdly, he actually sounds like he knows something. Of course all his writing is done through a haze of hatred. I'm trying to engage him in some frank discussion, see if I can't talk to him straight about his views, and tell him why he's wrong.
I seriously can't stand ignorance.
EDIT: Fixed some spelling. OH, and I took that video game thing. i'm apparently a cross between a Gautlet Adventurer and an Asteroid.
OH, BTW, sent a little e-mail to the administrators of that website. (I found a link saying "Have you found a problem on our site" and sent this to that). Tell me what you think:
"The problem is that your little 'comic' portrays people who play the DND game as evil, stupid, and unfit. It's nothing more than an ignorant, lopsided view, and it's the same way white people thought about blacks a hundred years ago. I just pray that you will find it within you to see through your hatred and mistrust, and realize that things are not evil just because they are different."
ON another note, you should check out http://www.chick.com/articles/dnd.asp
and
http://www.chick.com/articles/frpg.asp
both are articles on DnD by William Schnoebelen, and weirdly, he actually sounds like he knows something. Of course all his writing is done through a haze of hatred. I'm trying to engage him in some frank discussion, see if I can't talk to him straight about his views, and tell him why he's wrong.
I seriously can't stand ignorance.
EDIT: Fixed some spelling. OH, and I took that video game thing. i'm apparently a cross between a Gautlet Adventurer and an Asteroid.
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demiurge1138
Inventor of Super-Toast
Thorntangle said:
1984? I wasn't even alive then! Most people read dates and feel old. I read them and feel young.
And that parody is hilarious. "Where's Gary Gy..." "I'm afraid we don't speak that name in this house, young lad."
Demiurge out
William Ronald
Explorer
Hmm, a Jack Chick NPC. Problem trying to take over the world by banning anything that does not fit his philosophy.
I would suggest a visit to http://www.theescapist.com, http://www.aquela.com and http://www.tracyhickman.com for articles to counter Mr. Chick's points. (As someone who is a gamer and a Jew, my opinions of course mean nothing to Mr. Chick. On the other hand, there are a few Yiddish words I can think of which might offend Eric's Grandmother that come to mind for Mister Chick. ) The best weapon against ignorance is knowledge, and the best tactic is to present it in a calm manner.
What is truly pathetic is that there are people who see imagined evil (games, music, et cetera) and are not addressing such real evils as hatred, disease, and hunger. While I will defend Mr. Chick's right to voice his opinion, I can wholeheartedly oppose it.
I would suggest a visit to http://www.theescapist.com, http://www.aquela.com and http://www.tracyhickman.com for articles to counter Mr. Chick's points. (As someone who is a gamer and a Jew, my opinions of course mean nothing to Mr. Chick. On the other hand, there are a few Yiddish words I can think of which might offend Eric's Grandmother that come to mind for Mister Chick. ) The best weapon against ignorance is knowledge, and the best tactic is to present it in a calm manner.
What is truly pathetic is that there are people who see imagined evil (games, music, et cetera) and are not addressing such real evils as hatred, disease, and hunger. While I will defend Mr. Chick's right to voice his opinion, I can wholeheartedly oppose it.
Kesh
First Post
William Ronald said:
Unfortunatly, the reason people like Chick act this way is because they believe that the real evils are caused by the imagined ones. In other words, if you don't do what they say, bad things happen. ("Repent and follow me to the Lord, and all will be right again!"
) Christianity is a good thing in the right hands, but Chick...I agree with you. If he had focused this fervor on the real evils, the world might actually be a bit better.
Sixchan
First Post
Yeah, if he spent all this time using his artistic ability (although he realy botched a close up drawing of debbie) to campaign for an end to world hunger, or to helping homeless or elderly people, or anything else as kind as that, he'd die with a "GO TO HEAVEN. Do not pass judgement, do not collect $200." ticket in his hand.
But for some reason he feels it is more correct to spread his twisted view of christianity around the world. Even if he was just spreading the 'word', I don't understand him. Did he hand pick the WORST parts of the bible to force people into Christianity? Threats of hell, delusions of Demons in everything, hatred of other religions. This might have worked for the Catholic Church in the Dark Ages, but in today's free-thinking (hyphen used to show I don't mean the freethinkers, a name for Secular Humanists) world, does he think "God will cast you into hell for not worshiping him" will work better than "God will judge you on your actions and intent, and love you if you love his creations"?
But for some reason he feels it is more correct to spread his twisted view of christianity around the world. Even if he was just spreading the 'word', I don't understand him. Did he hand pick the WORST parts of the bible to force people into Christianity? Threats of hell, delusions of Demons in everything, hatred of other religions. This might have worked for the Catholic Church in the Dark Ages, but in today's free-thinking (hyphen used to show I don't mean the freethinkers, a name for Secular Humanists) world, does he think "God will cast you into hell for not worshiping him" will work better than "God will judge you on your actions and intent, and love you if you love his creations"?
Silver Moon
Adventurer
Back in 1984 I was the leader of a church youth group AND a very active D&D player. One of the members of the youth group actually passed out copies of this tract, which I then took apart panel by panel much along the lines of many of the above postings. I think I convinced the majority that the tract was a waste of paper (the book burning panel really helped with that one), and that I wasn't turning to Satanism. Of course, the guy who passed it out did a follow up the next week, bringing in another tract from the same author titled "It is a sin to have long hair" targeted at any man whose hair was longer than a crew cut (which is what it claimed Jesus wore). At the time I had rather long hair, as did most of the guys in the group, and none of us were inspired to go get ours cut.
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