I might wait 3 years for v.4.5


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Raven Crowking said:
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck.......
From 3e to 3.5e all changes where minor, changes that, while changing deeply some aspect of gameplay, where small points of the rules.
From 2e to 3e or from 3/3.5e to 4e there are deep changes, the whole game is different.
That's why 3e and 4e are new editions, and 3.5e was a revision.
To take your analogy, 3.5 is a goose. It looks like a duck, more or less, walks like a duck, more or less, swims like a duck, more or less, and quacks like a duck,more or less, but it is not a duck.
 

Horacio said:
3.5 wasn't a new edition, as 2e Skills and Powers wasn't it.

Wait...so 3.5 was just 3 books of optional add-on rules, why didn't somebody tell me that before I bought them. ;)
 

Psionaura said:
If what they have planned to do with all the charges and fees for all of the services they are going to be offering actually works then there shouldn't be a reason to ever see a D&D 5e for a very, very long time (if ever) because the system in place will allow them to generate plenty of money and the game will be able to evolve for a very long time with out a complete overhaul.
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MwahahaHAHAHAHAHA ! err, sorry ;) deeply sorry :D I get carried over often ...

Does everybody really voiced aloud that we needed a new system before the 4e announcement ? (well, okay, not many did)

No, my friend, they would like you to believe so, but at some point, they will tell you that the rules have evolved so much, that you will NEED another shiny bright new printing, even if that is more of the same.

(They will need it to keep in business anyways...)
 

Horacio said:
3.5 wasn't a new edition, as 2e Skills and Powers wasn't it.

Skills & Powers were a set of additional books you could use with your first or later printings of the core 2e books.

It was the same with 1e. The main books were reprinted, but the only real changes inside were errata. The 1.5 was really Unearthed Arcana, which, once again, was an additional book you could use with your core books.

3.5 reprinted the core books in such a manner that you couldn't mix and match them at the same table if you were playing RAW. This was especially true for spellcasters.

3.5 also reprinted the class splatbooks and many of the previously published optional rules, all with major changes.

The line that WotC originally gave us was that the changes in 3.5 were minor but necessary and you could use all the same books together without problems. This was later recanted, and they admited the change from 3.0 to 3.5 was a major one.

The different editions of Basic D&D (from Moldvay and up) were mostly changes in layout and art. The rules were less changed than anything from 3.0 to 3.5. I don't know about the Rules Compendium, though.
 


Before I forget then there was all the 3.0 class book like Tome and Blood which were replace with the 3.5 complete books like Complete Arcane.
 


Shadeydm said:
3.5 entailed buying a new PHB a new DMG, and a new MM can you really say with a straight face that it wasn't a new edition?
I say it with a very straight face, 3.5 was not a new edition.

All changes were minor, core books were 80-90% identical, you could take a PC from 3e games and use it in 3.5e without almost any change.

Invoke Chuck Norris if you want, it doesn't change the fact that a goose isn't a duck even if they can look similar.
 

Stereofm said:
MwahahaHAHAHAHAHA ! err, sorry ;) deeply sorry :D I get carried over often ...

Does everybody really voiced aloud that we needed a new system before the 4e announcement ? (well, okay, not many did)

No, my friend, they would like you to believe so, but at some point, they will tell you that the rules have evolved so much, that you will NEED another shiny bright new printing, even if that is more of the same.

(They will need it to keep in business anyways...)
There will be a 5e, in a few (or not so few) years. It will be natural, video-games have versions, miniature games have versions, movies have remakes...

Look at Warhammer games, new edition every few years and people don't feel cheated (well, they do feel cheated, but they buy and play it anyways).
 

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