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It sounds really good to me!Seems weird at first, but it's sooooooooooo good.
It sounds really good to me!Seems weird at first, but it's sooooooooooo good.
Different countries, different trends I think.I mean, I can only speak anecdotally, but I think AD&D's loss was mostly White Wolf's gain. Like, when I got to university in 1997, not only had the RPG club grown to the point where it was meeting in a larger space (so I was told, obviously I was new), but there was, IIRC 1 table of AD&D players, vs. 6+ tables of White Wolf players (I think 3 of which were Vampire). There were more Ars Magica players than D&D players! That's obviously 18-22-year-old players, not the whole market, but I thought it was interesting.
So D&D on life support? Definitely. Other RPGs? I can only say that's not what I saw. Well hmmm - generic medieval fantasy RPGs were suffering pretty badly (D&D, Rolemaster, etc.), like, they were "uncool" - but anything that wasn't that, particularly Urban Fantasy/Horror stuff was doing pretty good. Then 3E and Exalted both helped make fantasy RPGs cool again, and pretty much saved that genre between them (people forget how big a deal Exalted was at the time, I think).
Yep, that or spicy chow chow.Slaw dogs for the win, though.
Ketchup is an abomination of cuisine.![]()
Kobolds Emancipating TTRPG Content Heroically Unfettering PlayersI don't think I even knew Ketchup® (or catsup) existed until I was in my mid-twenties. Unlike American-styles of pizza, it wasn't part of the necessary food groups I missed out on.
The spelling "ketchup" goes back to the 1600s and seems to be the oldest of the variant spellings that have existed over time. It is a Chinese loan word. A transliteration of a word for a sauce from southeast Asian made from fermented fish. In Chinese-language (Mandarin) class, I was taught that it came from Cantonese. But the Oxford English Dictionary traces its etymology to the Hokkien dialect but may also have originated from Malay and not Chinese. But since Hokkien was the lingua franca of south-east Asia at the time, that's likely where the British picked it up from, even if it entered Hokkien from Malay.More seriously, ketchup is an example of where what was once a brand name has become common parlance for the product in question, much like kleenex has for a tissue. This is relevant today in that one could maybe argue that "dungeons and dragons" has become common parlance for tabletop role-playing games in general; and if that's the case WotC's claims to ownership of the name lose a lot of steam.
What do you people even call hotdogs?I would accept any of the above, but I'm British so what the hell do I know lol?
You're right.
I should have put miracle whip on 'em.
Frankfurters or hotdogs usually, depending on age/background. Younger people are more likely to just go with hotdog.What do you people even call hotdogs?
Interesting. That's definitely not how it looked in London, UK!Even during the late-4e-era dip TTRPG-ing as a whole was still banging along far stronger than in the mid-late 90s thanks to PF and a host of other d20-based systems.
From 1958-2021, Ketchup was a registered trademark of Heinz (used specifically since 1869). And the company still legally contests they own the trademark for it.In any event, no need to put themark after it.
More seriously, ketchup is an example of where what was once a brand name has become common parlance for the product in question, much like kleenex has for a tissue. This is relevant today in that one could maybe argue that "dungeons and dragons" has become common parlance for tabletop role-playing games in general; and if that's the case WotC's claims to ownership of the name lose a lot of steam.
Absolutely.I think you're overthinking this in a big way. If anything the more progressive stance is to not position orcs as blindly evil villains, and treat them more as a cool player option that people are excited to reframe and rehabilitate.
No."You are overthinking it" was always the "Well, I don't see an issue" argument.
I'm really not asking for much. Name it anything. Just not orc. It's not even an established product name yet. It's still only a plan for something that is meant to bring lots of people together in a shared space. It won't cost anyone anything. Nobody even needs to make a statement.
Just let people use license content without having them make their stuff "ORC license products".
Yes, it was. Not the entire problem, but absolutely one of the problems.No their alignment wasn't the problem...
I’ll I will say is, you may want to revisit some Orc threads from the last few years.I don't think many people have a problem with legacy orcs, they weren't intentionally being compared to minorities.
Wow. I'll have to read up on that. It is like registering "soy sauce" as a trade mark.From 1958-2021, Ketchup was a registered trademark of Heinz (used specifically since 1869). And the company still legally contests they own the trademark for it.
I am good thanks, don't need your take.Red and Yellow Orcs just for a start.