D&D 4E I Wonder How Many People Misread PHB1 Warlock Dailies Like I've Been Doing . . .

[b_took]

Of course, this wasn't really clarified until PHB2:

When information is indented in a power description, that means the information is contingent on the information directly above it. For example, a “Secondary Attack” entry indented below a “Hit” entry is a reminder that you can make the secondary attack only if you hit with the primary attack.

But still -- most of the Warlock Dailies in the PHB1 do not require you to initially hit in order to be able to sustain them or apply their effects. They aren't indented. Unless there's errata I'm unaware of, even if you miss with, say, Curse of the Golden Mist of Fireswarm, you still get to use the sustain effect.

I was parsing a lot of these as being contingent on initially hitting, but they're not.

The things one learns . . .

 

[Tigris]

. Unless there's errata I'm unaware of, even if you miss with, say, Curse of the Golden Mist of Fireswarm, you still get to use the sustain effect.

I am guessing they were erratad, because the version I look at of curse of the golden mist and fireswaeärm (which were also in the class compendium) do not have a sustain effect.


Although fireswarm does allow you until the end of the encounter to spend an action to do an attack.


EDIT: I now just checked with the original PHB and yes it was changed quite drastically.

• Curse of the golden mist originally just made the enemy not get a standard action next turn on a hit, and sustain standard (which is part of the effect not the hit as you said), an attack with the same effect, but if you miss the sustain ends.
  • The new version deals 2d6 + charisma damage on hit, half on miss, and the enemy loses a standard action (ongoing) on hit and just 1 on miss
• Fireswarm is functional almost the same, it is just not sustain anymore, but you can make a standard action on a turn to deal area damage centered on the enemy, and on a miss it deals half damage and the power still ends. So the only difference is that its not sustain (which means you can also trys this at any later point and dont have to do this next turn).

 

[b_took]

Wow, that's a big change to Curse of the Golden Mist. I've mainly been plugging along with my hard copies; is there anything online that shows powers in their "final update" form, so to speak?

 

[Tigris]

You can find a lot of information and ressources about 4E in my beginner guide:

 

[BigZebra]

Wow, that's a big change to Curse of the Golden Mist. I've mainly been plugging along with my hard copies; is there anything online that shows powers in their "final update" form, so to speak?

Yes this one does: Offline Compendium

 

[b_took]

On that note, the Rogue's Garrote Grip power doesn't have an indent for the sustain line, either, which seems like a rather large oversight. Of course, the way the power's worded has issues, anyway.