I'm running through the woods, what can I do?

frankthedm said:
That would be scrawny for gargantuan, huge sounds about right.

Alone in the woods? What class are you? How did you let youself get out there? It does sound like it is your time to die.
I'm a rogue, myself and the party tracker were scouting, found a portal in the woods with a mound of leaves, huge mound of leaves, in front of it. He went sneaked up to the portal and went through, bear woke up and tracked the trackers scent back to me.

Stupid Tracker :]
 

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frankthedm said:
That would be scrawny for gargantuan, huge sounds about right.

Alone in the woods? What class are you? How did you let youself get out there? It does sound like it is your time to die.
Actually, I think the DM wanted to kill me, or, well, he can be cruel, but it was an encounter meant for the whole party, not just me, so I think in the end he pulled some strings.

I managed to run like mad for 30 hasted rounds of speed, with 2 round in between every 10 to get un fatigued and hasted again. I avoided, or survived really, 4 attacks and managed to run into the heart of a city.

The city was a tent city and the occupants where not known to use, we thought they were unfriendly, so it was a risk, specailly cause I ran by one of the out posts at 17 miles an hour. If I would have fallen along the way, I am sure the bear would have eaten me, and I couldn't get off the road, cause the brush was to thick, so I would have moved slower, but the bear would ahve kept the same speed, cause he was bigger.

I knew from the last two times I tried to spend two rounds trying to get unfatigued and hasted that I could not expect to survive a third, so I ran for the heart of the city and hoped/prayed that the DM would find mercy and have the villagers take care of, or at least aid, in dealing with the bear.

It nailed me in a charge/trample, I got down to 4 HP in a G&G game and got a few cracked ribs. At this point I think the DM gave me mercy. Whether for a good job of avoiding the bear for so long, thoughful solution to trying to heal and haste between haste uses, living for so long when I should have died or cause he thought I might throw a fit if my guy died, I am happy to not have died.

Although, I hope it wasn't the later and rather any of the former. While I would have been pissed had I died, I don't like to be handed everything on a silver platter. Unless the DM spills his guts, I think the world will never know ;) :) :D
SS said:
I would drop all of the food you have. If it is an animal, with animal intelligence and that does not work. Try to do what "they" always say make a loud noise. Thunderstone, Alarm, Sound Burst, any of these may work. If not, "they" also say play dead. I'd only use this for a last resort. Do you have a Deity yet? There's no time like the present.
When I stopped the first time to get unfatigued and haste again, the bewar gave me a quizical look and I used a free action to say 'hi' but it didn't respond. I thought that he might be a druid in animal form, and it was confirmed when I ran him into the village and after many rounds of bashing the villagers, he transformed into a human druid. He is the village protector and I guess he didn't want to eat me infront of the subjects or something.

Lucky me ;) :) :D

frankthedm said:
The jumping somersault is your 5 ranks in tumble giving the +2 synergy to jump. The rules for tumble clearly expect you to be rolling along the ground [look at the modifiers...].
Besides if you wanted to go through thier square at normal speed, The DC 25 becomes DC 35. I suppose taking the "practically impossible (-20 penalty)" modifier would be about right to Run while tumbling, but that a house rule.

The idea comes from
You can move up to one-half your normal speed and hide at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than one-half but less than your normal speed, you take a -5 penalty. It’s practically impossible (-20 penalty) to hide while attacking, running or charging.

Running is supposed to take away your dex bonus for the whole round, letting somone tumble when they can't avoid attacks feels plain wrong.
It was only going through a threatened area, not through the actual square. So, DC 25, but I think I would have had like a 25% chance of making a DC 35 from a house rule -20 modifier, which I surely would have tried.

Oh well.

Caliban said:
If the size difference is that great, try to head for terrain that will be difficult or impassable for it, but not for you. Duck between trees, through rocks, etc. Force it to go around while you go through, or at least slow down.

Unless you did something to really make it mad, or something made it unnaturally focussed on you, once you are out of sight it should give up the chase.
I tried to lose it the first round in the woods, but the trees where small enough for it to break through them and I was being slowed down by the under brush.

It turned out to be a human in bear form, he was made cause he thought I went through his portal. That is another story though.

SS said:
I fully agree, and if this does not work I know the names quite a few Gods. Which world are you on? Oh sure there are a few deities that should be avoided. The price may be more than it's worth but, most are on the up and up. ;)
Once, when we faced our first undead (and if you know anything about undead in G&G, you know what I mean) I tried to grasp a symbol that we got from a temple of healing to see if I could have some effect on the skeleton/zombie. I was only like 3rd level and was hoping to take a cleric path since everyone else was a fighter in a low magic world. I thought it sounded plausible that it might draw the attention of a God who might like a new follower.

I wasn't alone, one other in the group tried that too. He gave up after the first round, but I thought 'hey, if I just have faith, sopmething will happen'

Wrong.

5 rounds I tried, 5 rounds nothing.

Disappointed to find out later that there are no Gods in the world.

Mean DM :p
 

There is one thing that puzzles me about the situation.
I activated haste and booked out of there. He managed to keep pace with me, only losing 10 feet of space per round.
There is only one possible way I can see this happening: you were a) small, b) wearing heavy armour, and c) the bear had a base move of 20. That would give you a running speed of 90, and the bear a running speed of 80. Otherwise, no matter how I try to tweak it, you are gaining more than 10' per round. What was your base speed and armour?

Edit: Just figured out another way: a) you have a base speed of 20 feet and a x4 run modifier, b) the bear has a base speed of 30 feet, and c) the bear has the Run feat. *shrug*
 
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IndyPendant said:
There is one thing that puzzles me about the situation.There is only one possible way I can see this happening: you were a) small, b) wearing heavy armour, and c) the bear had a base move of 20. That would give you a running speed of 90, and the bear a running speed of 80. Otherwise, no matter how I try to tweak it, you are gaining more than 10' per round. What was your base speed and armour?

Edit: Just figured out another way: a) you have a base speed of 20 feet and a x4 run modifier, b) the bear has a base speed of 30 feet, and c) the bear has the Run feat. *shrug*
Actually, if I recall, haste gave me +30, my base land speed is 30 (human in light encoumberance) and we play with a house run where you add your STR and DEX modifiers to your base land speed + 9 (16 STR and 22 DEX, each modified by a tempary magical gain of +2 each) for a total of 69 speed. I don't have the run feat, but the bear sure did.

The DM never said what the bears speed was, just that I was out pacing it slightly and that he had the run feat.

FYI We instituted a base land speed house rule when an old lady, over 60 years old, tried to run away from us. I gave chase and since she was a human and we were both in light encumberance, she was always just slightly out of reach. The DM found a house rule variant on land speed, I think somewhere on ENWorld, and we have used that ever since.

Works very well really, if you are wondering.
 


This all reminds me of a joke. A big bear is in the ends, squatting next to a bunny. The bears says, "Hey, do you ever have a problem with..."

Oops. Wrong forum. :p
 

frankthedm said:
The idea comes from
You can move up to one-half your normal speed and hide at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than one-half but less than your normal speed, you take a -5 penalty. It’s practically impossible (-20 penalty) to hide while attacking, running or charging.

Running is supposed to take away your dex bonus for the whole round, letting somone tumble when they can't avoid attacks feels plain wrong.
In hind sight perhaps I should have tried moving away from him while hidden, but if I take to long to think things through, the DM jumps to the next round.

Oh well, I guess we agree to disagree. I could see denying someone a tumble while in a sprint, but I guess I don't see a problem with a quick tumble and then going into a full run, with an accelerated tumble of course.

Anyway, I'm not looking for something to throw in the DMs face and say, "here, they agree," I just wanted to understand a bit better. I guess I understand a bit of it, just not all of it ;) :) :D
 
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DM-Rocco said:
Recently in a game I was a PC in, I was alone and running for my life from a big bear. The DM didn't state what size catagory, but with a four foot wide head and about 15 feet from ground to shoulder, I think it was safe to say he was at least huge.

I activated haste and booked out of there. He managed to keep pace with me, only losing 10 feet of space per round. I have some magic bracers that give me haste for 10 rounds, and then become fatigued. When that happens I have two things I need to do, one, drink a potion that restores my health and vitality as if I rested for a day, and then two, activate the bracers and continue to run like mad.

So, in that time the bear has time to catch up and get in a round of combat. The situation came up where I had just activated the bracers and I wanted move through a square the bear threatened, which would draw an AoO. I tried to tumble, with the -10 for accelerated tumble so I could continue to run at four times speed, but the other players and the DM said you can't do that.

This sounds like the origin of the saying, "I don't have to out-run the bear; I just have to out-run you."

--Axe
 

Pickaxe said:
This sounds like the origin of the saying, "I don't have to out-run the bear; I just have to out-run you."

--Axe
We do have an ongoing joke cause one of the players only has a 10 STR and she is always at 1 pound right before medium encomberance. We always joke to hand her a water skin and than make a run for it.

Either that or trip her and run for it :p
 

Infiniti2000 said:
This all reminds me of a joke. A big bear is in the ends, squatting next to a bunny. The bears says, "Hey, do you ever have a problem with..."

Oops. Wrong forum. :p

Two guys walking through the forest, and a bear starts chasing them. One guy takes off his backpack and starts putting on running shoes. The other guy says, "What are you, crazy? You can't outrun a bear." The first guy stands up and smiles, "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun YOU!"
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Edit: ...or, what pickaxe said...
 

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