immortals handbook

[Upper_Krust]

Hi kreynolds mate!

Actually, it's far worse than that. Check it out...

I read that thread, thanks.

Clearly the problem is more severe than I imagined.

So its fortunate that I have already come up with an improved spell system which is simpler, quicker, more balanced and more flexible (derived in no small part from the system I developed before the epic rules).

There are still a few decisions to be made and I will need to do some testing. Also I want to make sure I can create any spell with the new system and hopefully conjure up an Epic Spell Conversion system.

I'm actually very excited about this; its all looking great so far!

 

[Bjorn Doneerson]

Somebody suggested I print the pdf's out through Kinko's. Would that work? Is it a good idea? Has anyone here done it before?

 

[Yair]

Demons

Just thought I'd ask: I know the IH will deal with the relationship between deities and their supplicants, and I do believe that it will give me good ideas on what the interests of the gods are, what they know and can do, and so on. As such, I'm looking forward to buying it.... for a long time now...
I was wondering, hoewver, if there was a place in the system for beings who aren't quite gods, but still have worshippers, or at least cultists. Like demons. Will the IH include such guidelines?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Re: Demons

Hi there Yair!

Just thought I'd ask: I know the IH will deal with the relationship between deities and their supplicants, and I do believe that it will give me good ideas on what the interests of the gods are, what they know and can do, and so on. As such, I'm looking forward to buying it.... for a long time now...

I appreciate the support mate!

I was wondering, hoewver, if there was a place in the system for beings who aren't quite gods, but still have worshippers, or at least cultists. Like demons. Will the IH include such guidelines?

Yes. I have this all covered as well as a comprehensive breakdown of beings that touch the divine, but are not quite immortal.

I should also add that I vastly expand on various hierarchies of the planes.

I also don't hold the same notion as WotC that demons et al are 'hamstrung' at quasi-deity status. I do so loathe that sort of arbitrary nonsense.

I hope that answers your questions?

 

[Yair]

Ahhh, but you do know to whet my appetite...

Your work does seem very thurough. Hopefully not long now...
BTW, the pdfs would be available through RPGNow, wouldn't they?

The waiting,
Yair

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hello again Yair mate!

Ahhh, but you do know to whet my appetite...

There is A LOT of stuff I am holding back from telling people because I don't want to spoil all the surprises.

Your work does seem very thurough.

I'm trying.

Hopefully not long now...

I hope so too.

BTW, the pdfs would be available through RPGNow, wouldn't they?

Thats the plan.

The waiting,
Yair

All good things...

 

[Kerrick]

I scanned through this thread, and I'm really interested to see what you've got to offer. I downloaded the CR charts you posted, and they're invaluable (even if I have to guesstimate on some things). The Brood is also working on a Legendary Handbook (for 20+ level play); our campaign world has been around for 20+ years, and epic-level play is a large part of the world.

So its fortunate that I have already come up with an improved spell system which is simpler, quicker, more balanced and more flexible (derived in no small part from the system I developed before the epic rules).

Hmm... I've also come up with an alternate, level-based system, which seems to work, though I haven't had the chance to playtest it (our epic campaign is on hold for a few months while we get things caught up in the campaign world and get the LHB at least partially done). I have written up about 60 spells, and they are all reasonably balanced, so it bodes well for the system.

Oh yeah - I Dl'ed the Tomes; you have to use Notepad to open the first one. I scanned through some of the spells... the majority of them are badly written, and many of them are way off in level, but there are a few gems here and there.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi there Kerrick!

I scanned through this thread, and I'm really interested to see what you've got to offer.

Thanks I appreciate the interestmate!

I downloaded the CR charts you posted, and they're invaluable (even if I have to guesstimate on some things).

Just to let you know the pdfs I posted are merely work in progress; prototypes if you will. Version 4 (which I am currently finishing off) will (I think) be the definitive treatise on CR/EL.

I plan on sending it to Dragon Magazine, as was suggested by Ed Stark.

The Brood is also working on a Legendary Handbook (for 20+ level play);

Excellent. I had hoped I wasn't the only one!

The problem I have found with writing the book I always wanted to read is that it doesn't have the same feeling of anticipation and surprise. Its like you already know what you're getting for Christmas.

So I will be really looking forward to whatever Epic/Immortal material other people come up with! You can definately count on me to get your book.

our campaign world has been around for 20+ years, and epic-level play is a large part of the world.

Our campaign has been active for almost that long as well. I have been playing the same Immortal character on/off for over 15 years.

Hmm... I've also come up with an alternate, level-based system, which seems to work, though I haven't had the chance to playtest it

I developed a system about 18 months ago (prior to the Epic Level Handbook). I was planning on using the Epic Spell System but too many people have related that they are unhappy with it. Though I still hope to have an adequate conversion system (and a few chanes I was planning to instigate) for the few that still plan on using the epic spell system.

(our epic campaign is on hold for a few months while we get things caught up in the campaign world and get the LHB at least partially done).

Coincidentally enough the immortal aspects of our campaign have been on hiatus until I finish the IH.

I have written up about 60 spells, and they are all reasonably balanced, so it bodes well for the system.

I have written a similar number of spells (not counting modified versions of current spells).

Oh yeah - I Dl'ed the Tomes; you have to use Notepad to open the first one.

I have notepad, but when I open the first one the formatting is all crushed together. I was able to view the second one easy enough though.

I scanned through some of the spells... the majority of them are badly written, and many of them are way off in level, but there are a few gems here and there.

It was an interesting read, though I agree it has balance issues and there were few truly high level concepts. Enjoyable though.

 

[Necropolis]

Hi
cool two new product on high level play
i don't mind getting all of the products out there as long as they will be good products and i am know that they will be

anyway u_k are you going to detail strongholds or how to build strongholds for high level players ?

Thanks

 

[Grum_l]

Hi all!

U_K, do you have creatures like Fenrir, Jormungandr or Kezef in your book?

Perhaps you can post them on your website.

I can´t wait for the IH!

I have an Overdeity in my campaign and want new ways to stat him! It is a symbiotic being (chosen mortal host and immortal symbiont). Until now, I don´t know how to combine them.