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Chosen of Mystra Template

Upper_Krust below is a template for the chosen of Mystra from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. WotC gives this template a CR+4. I was wondering what it would be using your system.

Chosen of Mystra Template
(Effects function as if cast by a 20th level sorcerer)

Bonus Spells (Sp): A Chosen gains one bonus spell of each spell level 1st through 9th per day, which can be used as a spell-like ability. [CR+0.45]

Spell Immunity(Su): Chosen are immune to one spell of each spell level 1st through 9th, just as if spell immunity spell were constantly in effect upon them. [CR+0.45]?

Immune to aging(Ex): [CR+0.2]?
Immune to disease(Ex): [CR+0.2]
Immune to disintegration(Ex): [CR+0.1]?
Immune to poison(Ex): [CR+0.5]

No need to sleep (although they must rest normally in order to be able to prepare spells): [CR+0.1]?

Detect Magic(Su): Line of sight range [CR+0.05]?

Silver Fire(Su):
Can act as ring of warmth or a ring of mind shielding or allow the user to breath water or banish all external magical compulsions upon the user as if a greater dispelling spell were cast upon her. (Only one of the above effects can be used at any time) [CR+0.5]?

Function without food or water for up to 7 days (used once a tenday) [CR+0.05]?

Once every 70 minutes she can unleash silver fire as a blast of flame. This blast may be in an area 5 feet wide and up to 70 feet long, breaking through barriers as a lightning bolt would and overcoming magical barriers and spell resistance automatically. The blast deals 4d12 points of fire damage (Reflex half DC 23). Alternately, the silver fire can be unleashed in a 70foot cone, dealing no damage but permanently restoring dead magic zones with the cone to normal and dispelling ( as a greater dispelling spell) any antimagic field effects that contact the cone. [CR+1]?



Abilities: +10 Enhancement Bonus to Constitution [CR+1]


Total CR+4.5=CR+5
 

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Re: Chosen of Mystra Template

Hi there codewarriorpro! :)

codewarriorpro said:
Upper_Krust below is a template for the chosen of Mystra from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. WotC gives this template a CR+4. I was wondering what it would be using your system.

I am sure I have looked over the Chosen of Bane and Mystra Templates before, but for the life of me I can't remember offhand so lets take a look. :)

codewarriorpro said:
Chosen of Mystra Template
(Effects function as if cast by a 20th level sorcerer)

Bonus Spells (Sp): A Chosen gains one bonus spell of each spell level 1st through 9th per day, which can be used as a spell-like ability. [CR+0.45]

I would go along with that.

45 (total levels) x 20 (caster level) x 0.0005 (1/day)

codewarriorpro said:
Spell Immunity(Su): Chosen are immune to one spell of each spell level 1st through 9th, just as if spell immunity spell were constantly in effect upon them. [CR+0.45]?

Tricky one this. Spell Immunity is at will remember.

Therefore 45 total levels (caster level 20th) x 0.0025 (At Will)

So CR +2.25

codewarriorpro said:
Immune to aging(Ex): [CR+0.2]?
Immune to disease(Ex): [CR+0.2]
Immune to poison(Ex): [CR+0.5]

No need to sleep (although they must rest normally in order to be able to prepare spells): [CR+0.1]?

I could see the above being +1, so yes.

codewarriorpro said:
Immune to disintegration(Ex): [CR+0.1]?

CR +0.2

codewarriorpro said:
Detect Magic (Su): Line of sight range [CR+0.05]?

CR +0.1

Detect Magic is 0th-level (treat as 1/2 level spell); however the range is about four or more time greater than usual so treat as 2 levels higher.

codewarriorpro said:
Silver Fire(Su):
Can act as ring of warmth or a ring of mind shielding or allow the user to breath water or banish all external magical compulsions upon the user as if a greater dispelling spell were cast upon her. (Only one of the above effects can be used at any time) [CR+0.5]?

Probably +0.5

codewarriorpro said:
Function without food or water for up to 7 days (used once a tenday) [CR+0.05]?

More like +0.2

codewarriorpro said:
Once every 70 minutes she can unleash silver fire as a blast of flame. This blast may be in an area 5 feet wide and up to 70 feet long, breaking through barriers as a lightning bolt would and overcoming magical barriers and spell resistance automatically. The blast deals 4d12 points of fire damage (Reflex half DC 23). Alternately, the silver fire can be unleashed in a 70foot cone, dealing no damage but permanently restoring dead magic zones with the cone to normal and dispelling (as a greater dispelling spell) any antimagic field effects that contact the cone. [CR+1]?

Another tricky one this, primarily because of the awkward delay.

CR +2 (0.8 for damage; 1.2 for Greater Dispel Magic)

codewarriorpro said:
Abilities: +10 Enhancement Bonus to Constitution [CR+1]

Yep.

codewarriorpro said:
Total CR+4.5=CR+5

As Anubis rightfully mentioned +4.5 would be rounded down to +4.

0.45
2.25
1
0.2
0.1
0.5
0.2
2
1

The above works out at 7.7 (rounding to 7)

However I am not totally happy with the Silver Fire Cone rating, so its possible it could be +1 instead of +2, that would need further disection.

However the rest is fairly straightforward and seems at least +6 within my rules.

I seem to recall the Chosen of Bane Template was noticeably weaker.
 


Hi Anabstercorian mate! :)

Anabstercorian said:
I don't think you can justifiably rate the spell immunity ability as a +2.24 abilty.

I agree; I believe I have isolated the problem though.

Caster Level should always be minimum for Spell Immunity.

Therefore:

1:1 = 0.0025
2:3 = 0.015
3:5 = 0.0375
4:7 = 0.07
5:9 = 0.1125
6:11 = 0.165
7:13 = 0.2275
8:15 = 0.3
9:17 = 0.3825

Total therefore: +1.3125

That brings my total down to +6.76*

*With the Spellfire Cone still a concern.
 


Hiya mate! :)

Sorry for any delay (?) my computer has been down for the past two and a half days.

Bjorn Doneerson said:
Any answers Krusterino?

I thought I had answered this; indirectly at least.

'Divine Pets' can be as weak or as powerful as you want. Personally I don't see the point of making a standardised version of every animal when a Template can do the job far more easily.

Heres what WotC should have done for the Dire Animal Template:

- Increase generic Animal by one size category (with all commensurate benefits) and in the process double its Hit Dice.

Thats all they needed to do for that, but noooo, that would have been too easy.

Heres how to do Legendary Animals:

- Generic Animal gains the benefits of having its size increased two categories (and Hit Dice quodrupled); but retains its standard size.

- Alternately you could (instead of Quodrupling) simply add 12 Hit Dice. However, while that more closely parallels the WotC figures its somewhat incongrous.

Heres how to do Divine Animals:

- oh wait I'll save that for the book. :p
 

Upper_Krust said:
Heres how to do Divine Animals:

- oh wait I'll save that for the book. :p
Bastard! Tease!

O Merciless Omnipotence, spare us thy burning wit and bring us the book. The precious, precious book! That we may look upon it and prosper! Look upon it and weep! Look upon it and form grave-robbing grins as the DMs of old once did!

(yeah, yeah, still waiting on WotC's durned D&Dg SRD stuff)

-seasong
 



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