immortals handbook

[Upper_Krust]

Heyo Krust.

Hey Bjorn mate!

Mostly just posting to confirm my continued existance.

Always glad to hear from you mate.

But I had a question about mythology in general, sort of, and figured I'd ask you just because.

Okay, I'll help if I can.

So anyway, I've heard people discuss the idea of a "celestial beuracracy" especially among Asian cultures. What exactly does that mean?

Essentially the Celestial Bureaucracy was the divine counterpart to the Imperial Bureaucracy which ruled China for thousands of years.

Most cultures envision pantheons as mirrors (albeit generally far more extravagent and grandiose mirrors) of that culture and its political hierarchy.

So the Celestial Bureaucracy is how the Chinese viewed the Heavens, as an extension of their own culture ran in a bureaucratic fashion and ruled by an Emperor.

Any links that explain it?

I cannot find any that go into any great details, sorry.

and to stay semi on-topic if one found the idea sufficiently cool could it work with the IH?

I think you may be misinterpreting (or reading too much into) what the Celestial Bureaucracy actually is.

Its simply that Pantheistic Hierarchies tend to mirror their mundane (earthly) Governing Bodies...and vice versa (depending on Immanent or Transcendental viewpoints).

Thanks.

Have a great christmas dude, give my love to the family.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Merry Christmas all!

I don't suppose you'd be so forthcoming as to share an example of each one of these? .

I'll give some quick (and hopefully obscure) explanations.

...of course you never really get a full impression of the powers involved from singular examples, but thats all you're getting. Its only Christmas - its not your birthday as well!

Epic Feats:

INEDIA: You no longer require nourishment to sustain you.

Divine Gifts:

KARMIC [EFFECT]: You can choose from ten delivery methods (eg. Breath Weapon; Gaze Weapon; Ray Attack; to name but three) and deal damage straight to a characters EXP total.

Incidently there are 30 different [Effect] gifts spread amongst the various strata of power. Each with ten delivery methods. So thats technically 300 gifts on top of 300+ gifts detailed in the book.

Cosmic Gifts:

MOLYMORPH: You cannot be affected by anything whose shape you mimic.

Transcendant Gifts:

INDISSOLUBLE: Fast Healing: Infinity

Omnific Gifts:

OMNIPOTENT: okay, looks like we just run out of time.

 

[Chosen01]

Merry Christmas Krusty!!

Quote: Originally Posted by Paragon

What was the final decision on the magic system that you will be using? I'm guessing since ELH is not SRD'd will you work up your own for epic/divine lvl spell-casting?
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Yes. However I have designed my magic system in such a way that you can easily convert any spell to the Epic system in a matter of moments.

Is there anything in this thread that resembles your system?

 

[Anabstercorian]

Epic Feats:

INEDIA: You no longer require nourishment to sustain you.

Divine Gifts:

KARMIC [EFFECT]: You can choose from ten delivery methods (eg. Breath Weapon; Gaze Weapon; Ray Attack; to name but three) and deal damage straight to a characters EXP total.

Incidently there are 30 different [Effect] gifts spread amongst the various strata of power. Each with ten delivery methods. So thats technically 300 gifts on top of 300+ gifts detailed in the book.

Cosmic Gifts:

MOLYMORPH: You cannot be affected by anything whose shape you mimic.

Transcendant Gifts:

INDISSOLUBLE: Fast Healing: Infinity

Omnific Gifts:

OMNIPOTENT: okay, looks like we just run out of time.

That is cool, and by cool I mean TOTALLY SWEET!!!

 

[historian]

Happy holidays to all!

Thanks for the preview Krust, a very nice Christmas present!

Epic Feats:

INEDIA: You no longer require nourishment to sustain you.

This is cool, a fundamental building block of immortality. Incidentally, if this could be made available to undead, it might allow a someone to play a non-evil vampire.

Divine Gifts:

KARMIC [EFFECT]: You can choose from ten delivery methods (eg. Breath Weapon; Gaze Weapon; Ray Attack; to name but three) and deal damage straight to a characters EXP total.

Incidently there are 30 different [Effect] gifts spread amongst the various strata of power. Each with ten delivery methods. So thats technically 300 gifts on top of 300+ gifts detailed in the book.

nasty, absolutely nasty if used on conjunction w/a gaze effect.

Cosmic Gifts:

MOLYMORPH: You cannot be affected by anything whose shape you mimic.

SWEET, this is like Shang Tsung on steroids!

Transcendant Gifts:

INDISSOLUBLE: Fast Healing: Infinity

mwuhahahahahaha -- it's advisable to bring more than your +7 greatsword when tackling somebody w/this.

Omnific Gifts:

OMNIPOTENT: okay, looks like we just run out of time.

, I'm assuming this gift can't be taken multiple times?


Thanks dude, that's a nice snapshot!

 

[Upper_Krust]

Merry Christmas Krusty!!

Merry Christmas to you and your family Chosen01 mate!

Is there anything in this thread that resembles your system?

Well I scanned over the thread in question. The answer is really yes and no. In my Magic System the end results will look similar to the aforementioned ideas however the innovation lies in how you actually get TO the end result. This brings into play six new types of magic.

...of course thats probably me telling you more than you need to know just yet.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Merry Christmas Anabstercorian mate!

That is cool, and by cool I mean TOTALLY SWEET!!!

Glad you liked them!

...although I think the words 'tip' and 'iceberg' fully apply.

I am hoping to finish up with:

64 Epic Feats
128 Divine Gifts
64 Cosmic Gifts
32 Transcendant Gifts
16 Omnific Gifts

At the moment I am about twenty shy of the epic total. However, the rest are more or less there although there are undoubtedly one or two I am not convinced about, and still a handful with names I am not happy with.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Happy holidays to all!

Thanks! You too mate!

Thanks for the preview Krust, a very nice Christmas present!

I would have rather had the book available for you all, but forces ever conspire to get in my way. We'll get there eventually though; and I promise it WILL be worth the wait.

This is cool, a fundamental building block of immortality. Incidentally, if this could be made available to undead, it might allow a someone to play a non-evil vampire.

Interesting take on it. Incidently that particular epic feat requires another called HIBERNATE* as a prerequisite.

*Okay Krust don't spill all the beans.

nasty, absolutely nasty if used on conjunction w/a gaze effect.

The damage scales up and down depending on the type of delivery method. So IMMOLATION gives you much more dice than RAY ATTACK which in turn gives more than AURA for instance.

The delivery method determines the number of dice, whilst the actual effect itself determines the type of dice (for those who remember why elements of the CR/EL system were balanced by dice).

SWEET, this is like Shang Tsung on steroids!

"Your soul...IS MINE!"

mwuhahahahahaha -- it's advisable to bring more than your +7 greatsword when tackling somebody w/this.

To kill someone like this you have to do all the damage within one round since by the start of the next they are back to full hit points...

...A bit like the MERCURY GOLEM in the Immortals Handbook then.

I'm assuming this gift can't be taken multiple times?

Depends on your definition of infinity of course.

Thanks dude, that's a nice snapshot!

You know I really want to tell you guys everything but I fear your eyes would just pop out of your heads if I gave you it all at once!

 

[blackshirt5]

Dammit, I NEED THIS BOOK!

Give it to me before I swallow your soul, Krust!

And Merry Christmas. I look forward to this very very much, I think it'll help in my conversion of Exalted to D20.

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

Dammit, I NEED THIS BOOK!

Give it to me before I swallow your soul, Krust!

And Merry Christmas. I look forward to this very very much, I think it'll help in my conversion of Exalted to D20.

PLEASE make sure that you post the conversion or make it otherwise available when it's ready, right.

Thanks.