Important! Out Of Character Meeting..Please Read.

[WizO_Karalyn]

Hello, ladies and gents.

As you most likely do not know, I was going to be helping Reesa out with the Out Of Character Meeting.

Now, as most of you most likely do know if you read/watch the news, The NE of the United States has lost power, as well as some of Canada. As many of you know, Reesa is in Toronto, which was one of the cities hit by the power outage. So far, I haven't heard from Reesa, which means she's most likely still out of power. Many places that were hit in the US aren't expecting to be back until Monday morning--I have no idea what predictions are for areas of Canada.

Hopefully, she will get it back and be back online by the time the meeting was scheduled. However, if it turns out that she doesn't get the power back in time, we will have to reschedule. So, keep your eyes peeled, and check back here before the meeting. I will post wether or not the meeting is to be rescheduled around the time the meeting was scheduled for (I believe it was 12 noon site time).

With any luck, our lovely Reesa will be back with us, and the meeting will go as planned. I do hope to see you all tommorow!

-Karalyn

 

[WizO_Reesa]

Hi Karalyn,

I did send out emails yesterday but it seems they didn't go through for whatever reason. Toronto is up, or at least my area is now. I was worried about roaming power outages, which they say will happen over the next few days. I had turned my computer off last night after getting home and reading emails but I have it back on now. Unless I get wacked with this roaming power outage, I'll be here for the meeting in 2 1/2 hours.

Thanks for sending the note to the board Karalyn.

Reesa

 

[WizO_Karalyn]

Welp, looks like everything will go as scheduled. We'll be waiting for you!

-Karalyn

 

[Nugan]

Ugh, I missed it due to shopping for College supplies.

I hope it all went well, and I'll be sure to check out the transcript (particularly the "new player" parts).

 

[WizO_Reesa]

The Chat Logs!


Hello everyone! I want to thank those of you who came out for the meeting. I think that it went really well. I've taken some time to go over the log and edit it, then make it look nice for the posting, so here it is. Read it over, and if you find anything you wish to ask about or comment on, please feel free to write us.

Take care!
Reesa
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Wizo Reesa: Welcome to the first Out of Character Meeting for patrons. This is the place where you will be able to discuss with one another issues that bother you or those you feel need to be aired in order to perhaps help ease the tension we're feeling in the ISRP Area. For the sake of organization, we will be using the Chat Protocol for the meeting. What that means is you type ! if you have a comment, type ? for a question and wait for us to call on you. When you're done typing, please make sure you type /ga so that we know we can proceed.

I placed several topics on the boards under the thread “Out of Character Meeting” a week ago, so you should have had a chance to think over what you want to discuss. If possible, try to have your comments typed out ahead of time, so that we can have this meeting run as smoothly and quickly as possible, so we can get to each item.

The first item I'm going to bring up is what each room is for. Most of you should know this, but I'd like to cover it again.

The Emporium is an outdoor market place found on the plane of Juxtaposition outside of the City of Juxta. Portals from all over the multi-universe reach it.

The Arena is a battle only coliseum that's found off Juxta. This means the rules in Juxta do not affect the Arena (sonic attacks and such). This is a combat room, which can be used for either free form battles, or dice based combats.

The Guildhall is a meeting place for Guilds. It's a smaller room, open only during set hours, for people to go and discuss Guild issues.

The CRT is a Tavern set near the Ford Keep in Greyhawk. There are roads and waterways that allow you to better access the place. It is NOT on Juxta. There is NO way to walk directly TO the Emporium from the CRT. You can use the portals there, however.

The Clearing is another Combat Only room. It is NOT a place to go for idle chit-chat. It is found outside of the CRT. This is a dice-less combat room.

The Garden is a place for quieter discussions while the room is open. It is a garden outside of the CRT.

The Banquet Hall is available for private parties or affairs by reservation only. You have to send a request to WizO Reesa by email at reesa@wizardsmoderator.com relating the reason for the room request, the date and the time (as it appears on site). Please give at least a week notice so that host presence can be scheduled, as all events must be hosted. Are there any questions regarding the rooms?

WizO Karalyn: !

Airigon: ?

WizO Reesa: Karalyn, your comment?

WizO Karalyn: Just to help make role playing a little easier, I'd also like to point out that except in instances with Reesa/other marshalls, hosts in the tavern are not necessarily marshalls. It makes for odd role playing. /ga

Rhane: !

WizO Reesa: Well done Karalyn.

WizO Adele: Airigon question

Airigon Can the garden be made to be open 24-7? /ga

WizO Reesa: The Garden cannot be made to be open 24-7 at this time due to the fact that we do not have the resources to host so many rooms.

WizO Adele: Rhane, comment

Rhane: Just want to bring up how different the laws are in both places. You know, how the Emporium on Juxta is far more strict and lawful than Siani's rather.. chaotic tavern on Greyhawk. Just thought that that fact could be emphasized a little.

WizO Reesa: Thanks Rhane. Anyone else with a question or comment on this?

WizO Reesa: Okay then.. I'll continue.. The next item I'd like to bring up is assisting new players. There has been the complaint that you have no place to go to discuss with new players the rooms, out of character issues, helping them with chat commands, etc. After discussing it with the WizO team, we have come up with several possibilities for you.

If there is a WizO on site, you can Pm the WizO and ask them to unhush the ISRP Lobby so you can discuss with the new player how to interact in the rooms in Out of Character fashion. If there is no WizO on site, you can go to an unoccupied game room (example Starship) to discuss issues out of character. However! You must understand this is NOT an invitation to role-play there. If you are found abusing the rooms, you will receive a warning against your name. You can also go into RPG_Live if the room isn't busy and help the new player out there. Utilizing one of these mediums should help out. What are some other issues, comments or suggestions you have in regards to helping new players out?

Airigon: ?

WizO Reesa:Airigon, your question.

Airigon: Umm yeah when we teach them to battle and such if we get permission to talk ooc in the arna or clearing? /ga

WizO Karalyn: It would probably be best if you guys taught them that in the lobby or other rooms as previously described, as it may be confusing for us to know whether or not people are helping or abusing the room.

Airigon: We wont get in trouble if we tell a new user too keep it OOC will we because ive been in a room with a new user and the whole room say ((keep it ooc please)) all at once

WizO Karalyn: !

WizO Reesa: What you should do in an incident where a new player is speaking out of character to the room is PM them and explain it's an in character room and that they should leave the out of character comments in Pms.

WizO Reesa: Rhane

Rhane: Just to clarify, it's NOT against the CoC for us to take a new player into a room such as "Lair" to teach and help them out a little..? We definitely won't receive a warning for that?

WizO Adele: Ginger, the Gaming and RPG Live Area lead has decreed it is acceptable, provided the rooms are not in use by actual games. And provided they are only used for teaching. If someone is caught role-playing in there (not gaming), or cybering, or having any form of private RP, or just yakking and shooting the breeze, they will be warned per usual. Perhaps you might want to give any WizO's online a head's up that you are going to use the room temporarily. But let's keep the OOC use of ther room just for education. /ga

WizO Reesa: Karalyn, your comment please?

WizO Karalyn:Ok, just to clarify the ooc thing and why it's important. I know it doesn't seem it, but when one person starts, especially in the ic rooms, it can escalate and things get out of hand... hence why it's important to do our best to keep it to pms only. /ga

WizO Reesa:Airigon, your question please?

Airigon: Are there any ooc rooms, and if there aren’t the should be. /ga

Incensius: ????????? ((waiting turn))

WizO Reesa: The ISRP Area is dedicated to roleplaying only. You can speak out of character in RPG Live, or reserving the ISRP_Lobby or ISRP office.

Incensius, your question please?

Incensius: There was something said in the boards about not waving the "iggy stick" but what are we to do about people that don't stop, even though we tell them to do so in pm's?

Also, from my knowledge limbo is the closest rp room connected somehow to being able to place an adventure...but in order to use it for an adventure what has to be done - an email to the wizos asking for permission? /ga

WizO Adele: Ok first of all the ignore thing. Declaring an ignore on someone is a form of harassment. I know it's tempting when someone gets really obnoxious but please resist. What you can do is ignore them and report them to a WizO. You can also ask them *nicely* to give you some space, not be in your storyline, not message you etc.

What you cannot do is threaten them with the /ignore command or tell them you are using it on them. In other words Incensius, you can send them a private message and let them know you find their actions bothersome, and would appreciate if they would leave you alone. If they don't then they are harassing you, and can be reported as such.

As for limbo, you don't need to do anything special to use the room. You just show up, with at least 2 other friends, and begin your adventure. It is an in character room, it has several easy to understand rules, and is always open. Just make sure there are at least 3 of you total and one of you is Dm'ing, and you stay in character. /ga

WizO Reesa: Jardel your question.

Jardel Karabella: What do we do if we put someone on ignore (without declaring it) then have people asking us why we're not responding to them? /ga

WizO Reesa: If you put someone on ignore because they aren't listening to your requests to leave them alone, you can tell those who ask you why you're not responding that you've placed the person on ignore and leave it as that. Davon, your comment please?

Davon: I just think that telling someone that you are going to ignore them, regardless of if you use the ignore command or not, is much more decent than just doing it suddenly. I actually don't use the command much, so I can see them and judge any improvement and still maybe help 'guide' them. /ga

Nevine:?

WizO Adele: Ok. Here's my conundrum on this. What we are seeing is users being rude and impolite about it. Yelling /iggy stick! and hitting people with them etc. It's very cruel. Now I can see how it would be only fair and polite to warn a user that if they continue you will have to choose to ignore them, or report them. I'm open a compromise. We just need to draw line between where it stops being common courtesy and starts being haughty, rude and childish.

Would it be fair to allow you to say, "Please do not send me any more messages (insert etc here).I've already asked you once before. If you continue I will have to place you on ignore and report you to a WizO for harassment." ?

Davon:!

WizO Reesa:Nevine, your question please?

Nevine: If declaring putting someone on ignore is harassment (something one could get in trouble for), does that mean if someone gives me cause to put them on ignore (within reason) I can just report them right away? /ga

WizO Adele: Davon, comment on this I presume

Davon: The problem is that often these are personal issues, like the style they use, or attitude, things you wouldn't want to have to judge, and we wouldn't expect you to, so harassment claims don't come into it.

WizO Raven: You have to use your own discretion. Honestly, 'personal issues' shouldn't be cause for just using the /ignore command. Keep personal issues personal. Don't pay attention to what they are typing to the screen. The ignore command is best used for those cases where a person is really, really bothering you or distracting what you want to do on the screen. By all means report someone if they are harassing you. But, you shouldn't report someone just because you don't 'like' them parse. /ga

Incensius: !

WizO Reesa: Incensius, your comment?

Incensius: Some time ago a character was messing around the emporium then arena, using leet speech and stuff like that, using stuff like special keys to mime insults...he was warned and didn't stop....so we just ignored him....if one is so aggressive then are we not entitled to simply report him and use the /ignore command? /ga

WizO Raven: Definitely. Miming insults falls under that harassment umbrella. That is a perfect example of when to use the command and when to report to a WizO. /ga

WizO Reesa: Okay.. I'm going to move on now..

Next, let's discuss the issue of Character Descriptions. In the ISRP Area, it's very important to put your description up on your profile so that others will know what they are looking at. A great place to go to read about descriptions and some examples are the ISRP Pages. (Found here: http://wizopages.wizards.com/areas/isrp/cdescriptions.html) To make a description, you must type /describe edit then follow the on screen instructions. Be sure to have / before each line of your description so you don't get the “say” command first. I suggest writing it out on word first, then cutting and pasting the description on to the profile. (Note, using the profile button does not work. You have to go with the commands). Here is how to do the description:


Type /describe edit then hit enter
Type / then enter your description. You can keep going even after the screen fills up as it will just keep scrolling until the character limit has been reached.

(If you have a couple paragraphs, be sure to type / first before each line as you do in the first line of your description)
Type /. And hit enter when you're finished.
Refresh your screen.
Type /describe to see what your description looks like.

Some basic Dos and Don'ts:

Dos:

Do put the basics in your description: hair colour, eye colour, height, clothing, visible weapons, accent (sometimes it helps if you can't type the accent out), scents (perfume), etc

Donts:

Don't put their history, family, loved ones, friends, non-visible weapons, things you can't see.

A description should be anything someone can see on the your character. If your character carries a concealed dagger, someone can't see it at first glance so it should not be in his or her description.

Any comments or questions regarding descriptions?

WizO Karalyn:!

Jardel Karabella: ?

Davon: !

WizO Reesa: Karalyn - your comment please

Nevine !

WizO Karalyn: I've noticed sometimes that the commands don't seem to work so well on html or even java... they work best in iChat, so if you're having troubles, consider trying to use a different method of accessing the site to see if it works. /ga

Incensius:!

WizO Reesa: Jardel> Your question please

Jardel Karabella: Is it classified as "harassment" or otherwise to comment on people's unsuitable descriptions (or lack of a description)? /ga

WizO Reesa: What exactly do you mean by “comment or unsuitable” Jardel?

Jardel Karabella People who tend to have descriptions that are either irrelevant to the site or not really a description. Example that springs to mind, "You must witness this! The result of seven years of roleplaying!" /ga

Ladyshade:!

WizO Karalyn: Ok. Regarding the ones you mentioned, about them not being a description, really... I would recommend you pm the user and say it might be better if they had a character description, not something that doesn't make sense in a role-playing setting.

Regarding people who have improper descriptions, such as very vulgar/violent/gory... the most I would do is just send them a friendly "perhaps you should consider redoing it." But don't go at them about how it's wrong, as that could be considered harassment. If it's something like that, where it's graphic, definately report it. If it's someone advertising for a site or what not, definitely report it. I think I got everything... Oh, also going at someone rudely about not having a description could be considered harassment as well. /ga

Kitsie: ?

Incensius: !!!

WizO Reesa: Davon


Davon: Two comments "Has a +3 great sword on his back" is not good. Also IMHO descriptions that have lines that say the person elicits a certain feeling in onlookers does attack FoD in a sneaky way in my mind. /ga

WizO Adele: Freedom of Destiny is not part of the Code of Conduct, it's an in character law that's only in Juxta. But it's also simply common sense and polite role-playing. I don't think users that write descriptions as such are trying to attack anyone's Freedom of Destiny, they are just inexperienced and perhaps don't know better. Maybe in some cases they are pompous jerks who are arrogant role-players who simply don't care, but I wouldn't assume that of everyone. And I don't think it's always polite to go around being the good role-playing police. Everyone commits some sort of role-playing crime now and then. I'm sure Reesa would have my head on occasion for OOC comments, and abuse of the emotes. *laugh* And lord knows even as Area lead my description making ability sucks.

What it all boils down to is be nice and employ common sense. If you think that user would be open to your suggestion, and if you think you can phrase it nicely then go for it. But don't be too wounded if they reply poorly, think about how you would feel if someone PM'd you about your style.

You know, I lurk every time there is a description making forum because I suck! I'm not afraid to admit it. Maybe the next time they hold one of those the patrons can remake me. *chuckle*

So umm yes, just use common sense, and be respective. We're all in this together, and no one is perfect, not even me. Hell especially me. /ga

WizO Raven: It's true that there are some who 'could' creep you out by their appearance of their nature, however doing it that way, by adding things like "you fall to your knees and sob like a new born babe, trembling in fear before this being of massive power...yes foolish mortals your life is forfeit as he casts his fiery gaze upon you.” That's a bit much, since we all know you can't force actions on people, that goes the same for feelings. These things are best dealt with via PM such as "His gaze could make you feel a bit nervous"

Incensius you have a question?

Incensius: More of a comment… Depending on each character there is a special way of describing them...such as a skeleton will be described in an artistic view as horrid, rotting and decayed...and a succubus or a nymph will be described as being luxurious, tempting and yet far out of reach unless she wishes it so.... descriptions make the characters what they are.... except for interactive role playing that is...anyway, if the description is denied the artistic touch then there is much beauty to the character lost!/ga

WizO Reesa Nevine, your comment please?

Nevine:While descriptions are a nice way to show off one's writing skill, keep the length of it in mind. Most people aren't going to care about (or read) a paragraph describing your robe (exaggerated example). Try to make it convenient for others, a general rule I use is to keep it within one default iChat page or thereabouts. /ga

WizO Reesa Aesynil?

Aesynil: Heh..I've always thought that you can get around that problem by giving the other people the option to acknowledge it. Like..I used “His proximity alone is enough to send those weak of will running in terror, yet even the strongest of minds can feel the threat this man's very existence offers.” It says that, yes, he's intimidating in some unknown fashion, but if you don't want to acknowledge it by action, at least you know it's there, but nobody is forced to respond to it. They have that option, sure, but it wasn't “You run screaming in fear when his eyes settle on you” or whatever. My opinion *Shruggle* And...to what Nevine said, I have to agree...despite the fact my descriptions aren't exactly short. I think if ya want something longer, just put up something short then make a website for the rest. /ga

WizO Reesa:Ladyshade, you had a comment regarding descriptions?

Ladyshade: Everything I would have said was covered very well already. Anytime you are dealing with situations like these just be tactful. I don't care who you are, how brilliant an RP'er you think you are, or how much you know. Even if you're faced with a 'pompus jerk who is an arrogant role-player' you only come off as one yourself if you don't approach people a certain way. And nothing will get changed, 'fixed'. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but most people don't get too offended if you offer a comment or two. Some are just happy to see someone was paying attention. /ga

WizO Reesa: Very well said Ladyshade.

I'm going to continue on then with more about character making..

Next I would like to bring up the subject of character flaws, things to make your character unique or different from other characters. Ladyshade started a very good thread on the boards. (Http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.phb?s=&threadid=72276)

By “flaws” she's referring to character flaws, rather than physical. She made a comment in her post “I think of druids as being open to appreciating all creatures in some way, so my idea of 'out of the ordinary' would be someone playing a druid as utterly loathing a specific animal for some reason.”

Does anyone have a comment regarding this, or have you sat down and preplanned these things or do they just come out during game play?

Incensius: !

Jardel Karabella:!

WizO Reesa: Incensius, your comment please?

Incensius: I think it's all about how you handle things during interacting...for instance you can have a celestial that hates demons but is trying to be stealthy...that's what it says in the descript...but when ic they meet one they go crazy and there goes their cover and so I think the descript and general idea of the character has to be changed as they evolve. That way keeping it interactive since that's what the I in the ISRP stands for. /ga

Ladyshade:!

WizO Raven: Jardel

Jardel Karabella: I'd just like to suggest to people not to get too carried away in "planning" their flaws parse. Nothing is more disturbing than people going out of their way to show off some flaw about themselves. It's nice to keep some flaws hidden away for people do discover later. /ga

WizO Reesa: Very good comment Jardel.

WizO Reesa:Ladyshade, your comment please?

Ladyshade: Just wanted to say those are both good points. Characters should evolve and I personally don't think it's half as much fun if you lay everything about them out on the table the first hour you play. /ga

WizO Reesa: Good point Ladyshade. I also wanted to comment that some characters only change during their play time. I've seen Reesa change over the 5 years I played her. /ga

Okay.. any other comments on Character flaws?

(After a few minutes pause)Okay... I'll continue on then...
Next issue is in regards to evil in the ISRP area..

Dragona had brought up the question regarding evil having a place on the Wizards site in her post: (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70191) She asked if evil should be played in the ISRP Area, and what types of evils should be found there. Comments were made about those who were subtle about being evil as opposed to those who seem to be “overly” evil. What are your opinions on these things?

Aesynil: !

Ladyshade:!

WizO Reesa: Aesynil, your comment please.

Aesynil: My biggest problem with the entire evil thing is those who play the characters without motive or reason. Even the Viles, for all the criticism they took, had a rather nice reason..Furtherment of the Shadows, or what not. But a lot of the evil ya see doesn't have that, heh. Malicious killing just for the sake of slaughter doesn't really impress anybody, in my opinion. /ga

WizO Reesa: Good comment Aesynil. Ladyshade.. your comment?

Nevine: !

Ladyshade: I agree. I think it's a combination of things for some people. They want to test out a new 'sort' of character and haven't thought it out entirely well, getting caught up in thinking what would make them 'evil enough' etc. I definitely think evil has a place on Wizards. I haven't ever thought that a question. It all comes down to how people play it that makes it or breaks it. /ga

WizO Reesa: Nevine.. your comment please?

Nevine: I've noticed that same people will play a race or creature that is generally considered evil and make complaints about in character. If someone is going to play this type of character they should accept beforehand the heavy prejudice in a fantasy setting already leveled against them. /ga

WizO Reesa: That's a very good comment Nevine. I agree with that comment as well. Anyone else have a comment or question?

Jardel Karabella: !

WizO Reesa:Jardel, comment please?

Jardel Karabella: I think people tend to get a little too excited with playing "the most" evil, thing they can be... leading us to have a marketplace full of warlords, demon kings, etc all of whom really should have better things to do than steal candy from babies. People should remember a foot soldier can be just as evil (if not more) than a general. /ga

WizO Karalyn: Good point.

Ladyshade: !

WizO Reesa: Ladyshade, your comment?

Ladyshade:Also, a note of reminder to people playing these evil characters. Other people around you are playing their 'good' characters. It goes along with what Nevine said. Expect certain response from people. It's not very likely these characters are going to be liked, unless they're being played subtly and have everyone's trust. Also...heh...don't get discouraged in it. Everyone won't hate 'you' for playing a very evil character well. Stick with it. /ga

Incensius: !

WizO Reesa: Good comment Ladyshade! Incensius, you'll be the last comment before we move forward.

Incensius: But you can't ask someone that's playing an evil race to suddenly stop being evil....seen to many cases of evil persons, such as liches turning good all of the sudden...or vampires being turned back to life because of the love they carried for bla bla bla bla.

If one should choose to use evil in their character's story then by all means carry on with it...because to me using it just as a plot and then totally forgetting or just using it to be able to say "Oh yeah...I used to feel like that" does nothing for the beauty of the game. It's everyone's choice, but still, if one chooses to play an evil character then they should play it out.....

I for one appreciate lawful evil though....seems more modern and better to use interactively than the eternal yelling mage "I SHALL DESTROY YOU YOU PATHETIC LIGHTBRINGER!!!". So it is everyone's choice but when that choice is made it should be made in a manner that allows you to further the story, not to bring a maniac into the game or just have something you can be proud of or such and the same goes for good characters. /ga

WizO Raven: You certainly make a valid point. All too often there are evil characters turning good, or vampires becoming mortal again yadda yadda. While the beauty of the game is that you get the chance to play that evil person or that righteous person and you get room to play it to it's fullest. I rather enjoy seeing a properly played evil character, one with reason for being evil. /ga

WizO Reesa:Deslanora, I understand you had a question?

Sorceress Deslanora: Yea, I do. In IC relationships How far can you go. If you are married?

WizO Raven: No farther than what is normally permitted. You don't see Raven walking up to Reesa and shoving his tongue down her throat as he caresses her behind. You are expected to follow the guidelines married or not. The same rules apply for me and Reesa. You can do whatever you want, take it as far as you want to OFF SITE, but if you are playing onsite we ask that you keep it to a dull roar. /ga

Aesynil: ?

WizO Reesa: I have no problem with people sitting on each other's lap and cuddling but you have to remember that the in character rooms are public rooms. So would you really want to be seen making out in public? Also, remember there are young impressionable people in the rooms too. Keep it clean.

Aesynil...your question please.

Aesynil: I suppose those is along those same lines, if a different subject. How far can you take violence, and how far can you describe suffering and the like? If my character guts somebody, twists his sword around a bit, and over-all just drags it out to the point of senseless violence..is that a problem?

WizO Raven: Violence is subjective in the combat rooms, you are entering into mortal combat, so naturally there would be a degree of brutality. Key thing to keep in mind is, it doesn't have to be 'house of 1000 corpses' graphic and gory.

WizO Reesa: On the boards there was a question regarding the Code of Conduct, how it's handled now, and what new issues this might bring to you as the players. I have asked Adele to bring this to the open for everyone to better understand what was meant in the posts about the CoC process. Adele.

WizO Adele: Basically the actual CoC hasn't changed, it's the enforcement. What you'll see is a lot more soft warns and when you do receive an official warning it needs to be taken seriously. You now get approximately 2 warnings. On your 3rd warning you will lose not just the current name (as was the old CoC enforcement) but all the names you have. This is to prevent users from creating MuP's while protecting their favorite names.

It's not something we changed just for ISRP. Hasbro changed it and it's a done deal. So if you have objections to the new enforcement you need to take it up with community@wizards.com but if you have questions I'd be happy to answer them. /ga

WizO Reesa:Any questions for Adele?

Ladyshade: ?

WizO Reesa:Ladyshade, your question please?

Ladyshade:How exactly are Wizo's instructed to give soft warns and official warns. I know the basics but are there any comments that come to mind at the question as to what 'should' happen? /ga

WizO Adele:Well I'll give an example then. If someone slips up and says an offensive 4 letter word once they might get a soft warning. But if they go off on some major swear fest then it's safe to say they'll be getting an official warning that will count towards name loss. Is that helpful ladyshade?

Ladyshade: Yes, that helps.

Jardel Karabella: ?

Incensius:? (not concerning this topic...)

WizO Adele: Jardel?

Jardel Karabella: Is it possible to have the CoC a little more clarified as to what constitutes various aspects such say "profanity"? I only ask because at the moment the way I read it appears kind of vague and I've had problems with inconsistency between Wizos etc. Even something as simple as comparing it to a movie rating etc? /ga

WizO Adele: Unfortunately vague is intentional because it would unwise to list the words that aren't allowed. However if you send me a specific word in e-mail I can give you some idea of its severity. If you had to go with a rating I'd say Pg-13. Some minor swears are allowed in *moderation* Hell and damn aren't really swearing under that. The f bomb is. Is that what you were looking for?

Jardel Karabella: Right, I don't mean for a finite list, just a more clear scope. I once got a warning for having a character think "damn", then the next day saw another Wizo using it. But PG-13 helps a lot yes. Thank you. /ga

WizO Adele: chuckles.. "Well I hope damn isn't or I'm certainly in trouble. I'll make sure the word gets out on that one. The hosts are going to do some refresher training because of the rule change, so I'm sure this will all be covered. When in doubt, feel free to drop an e-mail and I always follow up with the entire team to clarify.” /ga

WizO Reesa: Any other questions regarding the CoC for Adele?

Incensius: ????

WizO Adele: Incensius?

Incensius: Are our characters allowed to use quotes such as Incensius says: A very wise man once said to me "Beauty is passing, Genius is forever" ? Even though they are quotes from real life but inserted in the game through a phrase like a wise man once said?

WizO Adele: Sure that's not a problem.

Incensius:Thanks /ga


WizO Reesa: Oh.. before we close.. Karalyn has one more thing to bring up. Karalyn.

WizO Karalyn:Okay. I'd like to bring up the fact that we will be looking for more people interested in becoming a WizO fairly soon. You need to be at least 18 years old. Keep a look out on the site for the applications.

Jardel Karabella: ?

WizO Reesa: Jardel, your question?

Davon: !

WizO Raven: Want to know how to join the insanity that is 'us'? Stop by http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=community/wizos/who

Jardel Karabella: What are the expectations in time commitment for a new Wizo?

Incensius: ?

WizO Raven:You are required to host no less than 4 hours per week. Two, 2 hour shifts. /ga

WizO Reesa: Incensius, your question?

Incensius: Aside form the 4 hours...any other requirements?

WizO Adele: You must respond/read any related e-mail within 48 hours. /ga

WizO Pounamu: clears her throat from a different time zone. The 2 – 2 hour shifts within certain times. Not "I can do 2 hours on 2 days when no one else is around", because there's a set period of hours that need to be hosted.

WizO Karalyn: Good point, Pou.

WizO Adele: The actual times I need will be detailed in the upcoming ad.

WizO Pounamu: The hours are usually between 15:00 (3pm) and 21:00 (11pm) pacific time.

WizO Reesa: Davon, your comment?

Davon: As Raven brought it up, I guess insanity is a requirement, or at least a willingness to embrace the madness. /ga

WizO Reesa: Thanks Davon… as the saying goes… it's not a requirement to be insane to work here, but it sure does help.

Incensius, your question please?

Incensius: Where will the requirements be posted? I know the message boards but where, more precisely?

WizO Karalyn: It's on the site up above in the bar. More specifically, you can find the apps on the left side bar at the main chat entrance, once they go up. And they'll have the more

WizO Reesa: This wraps up our session. If you have any further questions regarding this, or in regards to something we haven’t covered in here, please feel free to write one of us. Our email addresses are easy to find. It’s our name before the @wizardsmoderator.com.

Thanks for coming! Take care!