Incomplete Hunter and Hexblade classes in DDi Compendium?

[Nikosandros]

The Compendium is NOT a replacement for the books. It is just a quick reference tool. It is NOT meant to replace using the books to make characters.

This is not what the Compendium has been so far and how it has been marketed. The Compendium doesn't include fluff and such, but it always has included the full rules for classes.

 

[Shroomy]

Its more of presentation issue than anything, because all the actual powers and items are in the Compendium. The only thing missing would be the stat blocks for the hexblade's summoned creatures.

 

[Joshua Randall]

The Fighter, of all classes, doesn't have the Combat Challenge power, either.

That's because Combat Challenge is not a power. It's a class feature.

For some reason the character builder likes to pretend that CC is a power though, and print a power card for it.

 

[the Jester]

Sorry, I pay for my subscription, and I dont think its a big ask to expect that for my money I at least get a complete offering.

Yes. This is my biggest gripe about DDI right now- they are providing none of the things that a DDI sub is supposed to.

The Compendium remains incomplete.

The Character Builder Classic has been abandoned and is no longer complete, while the new online CB is barely working and, realistically, is a beta test version. So there is no working complete CB offered.

The old Monster Builder just got raped with an "update" that didn't fix any bugs and removed all the RPGA content, while a new MB is promised as a beta sometime, hopefully by the end of December (but no promises). So there is no working MB offered, or any other of the virtual tools that WotC sold the 4e community on.

The online magazines have dwindled in content, and much of the content is preview material (or, as some would call them, ads). The maps are largely Dungeon Tiles thrown together into lame and ugly configurations (to encourage you to buy the tiles, natch) and the 'adventures' are mostly delves.

I've been a firm supporter of WotC until very recently while acknowledging their many mistakes along the way, but the complete lack of anything completely usable- the fact that DDI is offering me substantially less than it was a few months ago, with the stripping of content from the MB, the bug-inducing MM3 format update, the new CB being so incredibly unfinished, the lack of material making it into the Compendium- damn it, what am I paying for? It's as if I bought someone's complete collection of Jack Kirby's Eternals, only it was missing #1, 4, 7-8, 15 and the annual.

 

[The Little Raven]

This is not what the Compendium has been so far and how it has been marketed. The Compendium doesn't include fluff and such, but it always has included the full rules for classes.

Not quite. Some rules for classes has been missing, such as the Beastmaster Ranger's rules for the Beast Companion. However, Combat Challenge suddenly going missing is a huge problem.

 

[The Little Raven]

That's because Combat Challenge is not a power. It's a class feature.

For some reason the character builder likes to pretend that CC is a power though, and print a power card for it.

The last sentence in the class feature entry for Combat Challenge is "In addition, you gain the Combat Challenge power."

 

[Shazman]

Be that as it may, why did the Scout and Hexblade get singled out in this way?

Sorry, I pay for my subscription, and I dont think its a big ask to expect that for my money I at least get a complete offering. There were sentences under the hexblade that read "You can pick one of the following powers"...with no power listed!!! Thats just incomplete.

Especially in light of the scetchy past couple of months of offerings for your subscription dollar, you think they would have tried a bit harder

At this point should you really be surprised? DDI has suffered from one massive failure after another since September. You should come to expect it by now. I'm not saying you should like it. You should probably even consider canceling your subscription. Sadly, it doesn't look like it's going to get much better. Maybe if enough people cancel their subscriptions they will get the message and get their act together.

 

[Joshua Randall]

The last sentence in the class feature entry for Combat Challenge is "In addition, you gain the Combat Challenge power."

Not in my PH.

Compendium <> PH.

(Which is a problem, but a different one.)

 

[I'm A Banana]

That's because Combat Challenge is not a power. It's a class feature.

For some reason the character builder likes to pretend that CC is a power though, and print a power card for it.

That's quibbling over semantics and errata, though.

The fact of the matter is, the rules for a Combat Challenge are not in the Compendium anywhere, and that is a problem if you hope to look up the rules for Combat Challenge in the compendium really quick because your books are accross town because you thought that you didn't need to bring them with you and break your back because you can access the rules online.

Even with that information, the Compendium is not and has never been a total replacement for the books. It's a lookup tool. It contains the things you might need to look up. It doesn't include rules like character generation and how to make an attack roll or what XP you need to be 24th level, but it DOES include stuff like race rules, class rules, power text, conditions, and other things that you would need to look up in play.

Casting this as a "you don't *deserve* to have this info in the Compendium, since it is not a replacement for books, you rapacious entitled consumer, you!" is worth a facepalm or twenty. It's missing info that should be in there.

 

[The Little Raven]

Not in my PH.

Compendium <> PH.

(Which is a problem, but a different one.)

You said that the CB likes to "pretend" that Combat Challenge is a power. That's wrong. It isn't pretending. Combat Challenge IS a power according to the most updated version.

The problem is that you are relying on an outdated version when for 2 years, it's been common knowledge that the Compendium is the latest and greatest version of any rule or game element it contains.

Your PH tells you to find the latest and greatest updates on D&D Insider, so it should be no surprise that people use that version when having discussions.