Increasing threat range [2007 thread]

[hong]

Now that keen/Imp Crit got nerfed in 3.5, is there any other way to increase your weapon's threat range? I'm thinking of the weapon master PrC, but that's 3.0 IIRC.

[edited for when Frankthedm reads this in 2009]

 

[Drowbane]

Now that keen/Imp Crit got nerfed in 3.5, is there any other way to increase your weapon's threat range? I'm thinking of the weapon master PrC, but that's 3.0 IIRC.

[edited for when Frankthedm reads this in 2009]

Just convince your DM that Keen and Improved Crit are indeed meant to stack. It was a silly nerf, especially if the Weapon Master isn't considered a viable PrC.

By RAW, there is nothing out atm that improves Threat Range past one improvement (Keen or Imp Crit).

 

[Hypersmurf]

Now that keen/Imp Crit got nerfed in 3.5, is there any other way to increase your weapon's threat range?

Not quite the same, but there are various effects that grant bonuses on the confirmation roll...

If WotC Website is allowed, there's the 3.5 Psychic Weapon Master.

If BoVD is allowed (it's 3E, but with an update booklet, I think), there's the Disciple of Dispater PrC.

-Hyp.

 

[DungeonMaester]

Now that keen/Imp Crit got nerfed in 3.5, is there any other way to increase your weapon's threat range? I'm thinking of the weapon master PrC, but that's 3.0 IIRC.

I don't think its a silly nerf at all, in my opinion. There was too many people trying to create a huge crit range for x4 crit weapons.

Any way, no there is nothing in the rules that will help your plight. And if you are asking that with the idea of of applying it to a scythe or a lance then Ha! I say.

---Rusty

 

[Slaved]

I don't think its a silly nerf at all, in my opinion. There was too many people trying to create a huge crit range for x4 crit weapons.

Is 18 - 20 really all that huge as compared with 19 - 20?

I liked improved critical and keen stacking, it really helped out certain character concepts.

Although I did not much care for low critical range weapons getting a better deal out of it than larger critical range weapons. I still do not know how to remedy that though, assuming that a remedy is needed.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Although I did not much care for low critical range weapons getting a better deal out of it than larger critical range weapons.

Do you mean with a 12-20/x2 weapon more likely to miss within its threat range than an 18-20/x4?

That didn't worry me so much as the fixed increases like the Weapon Master's +2 to threat range, which definitely favoured high multiplier over high threat range.

-Hyp.

 

[Slaved]

Do you mean with a 12-20/x2 weapon more likely to miss within its threat range than an 18-20/x4?

Wasted threat range, yep. It tended to kick in even more with iterative attacks in my experience.

The number of other abilities to open up threat ranges on any weapon was definately poorly thought out though. If they had been limited to specific normally poor weapons it would not have been that much of a problem.

But just keen and improved critical? That was not a problem.

 

[Shazman]

Here are all of the ways I know to increase threat ranges of weapons.
Feats: improved crtical
Class abilities: Disciple of Dispater, street fighter substitution for barbarians (threat range increased by 1 when charging), psionic weapon master
Weapon special abilites: keen, impact
These improve comfirmation rolls for crticals
Feats: power crtical
Class abilites; battle ardor from the warblade (add int to confirmation rolls)

 

[Darklone]

Didn't the Exo Weapon Master have some ability that increased the critical multiplier? Or was it the Master Thrower?

 

[Dross]

3rd party wise AEG's Mercanaries book had the Serrated ability to weapons that increased the threat range by 1.

Then again, there was only a handful of stuff in a 250+ page book that was not over the top.

I'm sure that there are others