Indiana Jones 4 and KotS similarities? *Spoilers*

[BendBars/LiftGates]

Maybe the movie just seemed like a 4e adventure because now you understand the tools to write stories using 4th Edition D&D, so you start observing them everywhere.

 

[Jhaelen]

Maybe the movie just seemed like a 4e adventure because now you understand the tools to write stories using 4th Edition D&D, so you start observing them everywhere.

Yup, just like some people seem to see the influence of WOW in everything...

 

[jinnetics]

When that movie started, and I saw aliens, I groaned. then there was some cool stuff in the jungle, and a great scene involving fire ants... and then we were back to aliens.

Aliens.

Indiana Jones.

I've already begun writing an open letter to Steven Spielberg and George Lucas in my head.

They've said all along that just as the other Indy movies were modern versions of pulp adventure flicks, KotCS would be a modern version of cheesey '50s pulp sci-fi movies.

 

[Jawar]

The Athletics gold medal goes to Indy's son, playing Tarzan and overtaking a chase on fast moving vehicles.

Now epic does not even come close to tagging the task - I've yet to find the word for it and it sure ain't a compliment to Mr. Lucas.

I'm not familiar with KotS, but I sincerely hope the plot is more developed - I'll play it once it comes out, and not as a DM.

 

[That One Guy]

The Athletics gold medal goes to Indy's son, playing Tarzan and overtaking a chase on fast moving vehicles.

Now epic does not even come close to tagging the task - I've yet to find the word for it and it sure ain't a compliment to Mr. Lucas.

I'm not familiar with KotS, but I sincerely hope the plot is more developed - I'll play it once it comes out, and not as a DM.

Yeah. that broke my suspension of disbelief into little pieces. It just did not make sense at all. I'm wondering if it was an intentional part of the pulp chosen. I know Lucas' decisions do not make sense to me anymore, but I've heard that his commentary on DVDs makes them seem sane.

As far as the KotS plot goes, I think it's in the hands of the dm, based on the reviews and descriptions floating around the forums. But, I feel like that's part of the dm's.... 'duty'?

 

[PeterWeller]

You know, Indy did drink from the Cup of Life. That can easily explain why he's able to survive atomic blasts. You can look at Last Crusade as the adventure that got him from heroic to paragon levels. We missed out on most of his paragon adventures, but we get to catch a glimpse at the end, perhaps his last before he becomes epic.

As for the film, I loved it. The character interaction was fantastic, and even though I would have loved to have just another Indy movie, I'm glad they went ahead and expanded on the mythos. And even though the macguffin was scifi instead of fantasy, the film was still quintessentially Indiana Jones.

 

[Rechan]

You know, Fantasy/Sci Fi have been very incestious. I mean, back in the day, "Big Guy with Sword saves Princess from Monster" isn't very different from "Big Guy with Sword saves Princess from Aliens". Fantasy and Sci Fi have swap tropes and stories like the Hatfields and McCoys swapped "You're it". This is, after all, why we EGG put Psionics in D&D; it was popular, it was in Fantasy/Sci Fi novels at the time, and the genre was blurred.

Sci Fi and Fantasy are halves of the same coin - they both operate under almost identical rules, since Magic and Technology are merely conventional explanations to achieve the same result (This teleportation spell gets me from point A to Point B; This Teleportation Machine gets me from Point A to point B).

So really, I have no problem with Aliens in my Indy.

As for the FILM: I didn't mind the aliens plot so much as I thought the writing of the ending was kinda Meh.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

I enjoyed it felt like Indy and it was just damn good to see Ford with the hat on again. I think the aliens worked since it really did look/feel like a 50's pulp story.

As for the ending, one thing I did like:

[sblock=Ending Spoiler] Is that right when Mudd was about to pick up the hat, Indy does. I dunno but it felt like to me, like this was them saying, "nope, Mudd won't be taking over" [/sblock]

As for translating it to 4e, I am already planning on having lots of Indy-style pulp to my game (even if it is more grim and dark then Indy). The pulp will come also actually through a mix of mystical and technological means, ie: players think it is mystical, uncover it is technological but then find some mysticism lying beyond it

It will also come from the actions of the PCs, lots of rope-swinging, train riding, fighting on horseback/roof of trains, etc.

 

[Jawar]

You know, Indy did drink from the Cup of Life. That can easily explain why he's able to survive atomic blasts.

Did he drank from the Cup of Life? I only remember someone washing his wounds with the cup.


Anyhow, the atomic blast did not caught him directly - he was inside a house, which caught part of the blast, and then the fridge, well, they don't build them anymore like that, you know. Those were made of solid steel frame, heavy leaded, and to tell you the truth, when the countdown pressed, I too had the idea of getting inside the fridge - a common idea, so it seems, to survive such dramatic accidents with no major trauma, I guess.
The landing, well, the fact that it landed on a slope, now that was pure chance or he might have spent an action point there, just in case.

Now, my suspension of disbelief clearly holds on this one. I'm quite positive on that.
......

So, I am set for a career in politics or what?

 

[Fallen Seraph]

Did he drank from the Cup of Life? I only remember someone washing his wounds with the cup.

He drank from the cup when he picked which one be the Holy Grail to see if he was correct, before he brought it to his father.