Insight's "In the Shadow of Giants" [OOC]

[Insight]

The IC thread is up!

The IC thread contains a few minor nuggets of backstory, primarily where you start the game, where you just came from, and where you're going. None of this should affect the group backstory, but keep this information in mind.

 

[Sparky]

I do think Amos'll take The Green. An' much obliged to ya, Mister Seaward an' Mister Seeker for your patronage.

And, thanks hafrogman for putting the backgrounds together. Helps.

So. From Gregor's background, maybe our benefactor is Baron Cardiff and, if we do want to get those snazzy matching cloaks, whatever color we decide to get them in (I'm easy) should be his color. Poor, poor the Baron. I smell a chill in the wind with his name on it.

 

[drothgery]

I'll take sandybrown for Corrin.

 

[hafrogman]

I'll take my traditional "Dark Orchid" unless anyone has an objection.

Insight, I think we could actually send the *.dnd4e files to you, if you want the character builder sheets. That'd allow for the things that don't seem to show up in the summary (like languages). Might make things easier for you, and should still track the legality of the builds. I guess building them up gets you more familiar with them though, so your call.

 

[KarinsDad]

Sparky, yours was the one I missed. You had the second highest score and I somehow completely didn't see it.

So, how exactly did I go from slot 7 Alternate #1 to below slot 8, not an Alternate at all because you missed one score? Sounds a little fishy mate.

I personally think that you should have given the new guy a chance (as it suggests on the ENWorld sticky). Many of these people here are in multiple games already as you already know. If DMs only pick "their favorite entries" and "people they play with in other games", then new people will never get into a game. You (and other DMs here on these boards) should strongly consider that as part of their selection process.

I also think that once you made a selection, you shouldn't have gone back and changed it. You might consider that fair, but sorry, it's not. It reeks of favoritism (especially since Sparky is potentially your DM in another game) and was totally unfair to announce a cut and then kick someone off that list.

Uncool dude.

 

[Sparky]

...reeks of favoritism (especially since Sparky is potentially your DM in another game) and was...

The party selection for my game is based on a series of RP challenges that are judged by the participants (and me) which will then be scored and tallied to determine who earns a spot in the game proper.

I reject the implication of shenanigans.

Though your displeasure is noted and I might make a game just for new players.

EDIT: New-to-pbp game created. http://www.enworld.org/forum/talking-talk/265810-d-d-4th-edition-new-play-post-come.html

 

[KarinsDad]

I reject the implication of shenanigans.

Just stating the facts. The "DM for the other game" won after missing the cut. Vertexx99 lost after making the cut.

You jumped up 3 or more slots. Kobold Stew jumped up 2 or more slots. Vertexx99 dropped 2 slots and I dropped 2 (or more) slots. The two of you complained and the two of you got pulled up. I just find that totally uncool. You might have a different opinion of it.

Is he now claiming that he didn't score two people correctly?

You have the luxury of believing whatever you want. I'll do the same.

Quite frankly, he can pick whomever he wants for his game. He's DM. Was he objective? Unlikely. Does it matter? Nope.

Though your displeasure is noted and I might make a game just for new players.

That's cool.

 

[Insight]

Just stating the facts. The "DM for the other game" won after missing the cut. Vertexx99 lost after making the cut.

You jumped up 3 or more slots. Kobold Stew jumped up 2 or more slots. Vertexx99 dropped 2 slots and I dropped 2 (or more) slots. The two of you complained and the two of you got pulled up. I just find that totally uncool. You might have a different opinion of it.

Is he now claiming that he didn't score two people correctly?

You have the luxury of believing whatever you want. I'll do the same.

Quite frankly, he can pick whomever he wants for his game. He's DM. Was he objective? Unlikely. Does it matter? Nope.

Wow. This is all very insulting. I explained what happened and those are the facts. Sparky had the second highest score in my system and I left him off the final roster due to my own error. As for moving an alt around? That's very nit-picky. You're talking about someone who likely would never play in the game.

In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't pick someone with such a bad attitude.

 

[KarinsDad]

Wow. This is all very insulting. I explained what happened and those are the facts. Sparky had the second highest score in my system and I left him off the final roster due to my own error. As for moving an alt around? That's very nit-picky. You're talking about someone who likely would never play in the game.

In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't pick someone with such a bad attitude.

I don't have a bad attitude. You just got the BS flag thrown at you and you don't like it.

You put me as first alternate and even though I didn't make the cut, I didn't say a word. I could have not made the alternate cut either and I still wouldn't have said a word (unlike KS and Sparky who did whine right away). Everyone who does not make the cut is disappointed. That's life.


I personally thought renau1g's super optimized Orb Wizard with a M/C of Cleric and a background practically out of PHB II pretty darn unoriginal and typically min/maxed, but I didn't say a word. Have fun when he locks down the Elite or Solo most of the time and your BBEG is just sitting there.

Orb Wizards with a M/C of Cleric are a dime a dozen. Every min/maxer wants to play one of those. Tomb Wizards with a M/C of Shaman are unique. So although I thought your selection system was sub-par, I didn't say a word.

I wasn't crying sour grapes. You're DM. Your choice.


It was when you brought two players up in the list and kicked two players down, that's when I called BS.

You consider that fair? Whatever dude.

I had no problem with your selection process until you started monkeying with it. If you made a scoring mistake, you should have just sucked it up and not told anyone.

Learn from your mistakes and stand by your rulings. You'll piss fewer people off. And grow a thicker skin while you're at it.


Personally, I think you owe Vertexx99 a major apology. You screwed him over royally.

Have fun with your game.

 

[Insight]

I don't have a bad attitude. You just got the BS flag thrown at you and you don't like it.

You put me as first alternate and even though I didn't make the cut, I didn't say a word. I could have not made the alternate cut either and I still wouldn't have said a word (unlike KS and Sparky who did whine right away). Everyone who does not make the cut is disappointed. That's life.


I personally thought renau1g's super optimized Orb Wizard with a M/C of Cleric and a background practically out of PHB II pretty darn unoriginal and typically min/maxed, but I didn't say a word. Have fun when he locks down the Elite or Solo most of the time and your BBEG is just sitting there.

Orb Wizards with a M/C of Cleric are a dime a dozen. Every min/maxer wants to play one of those. Tomb Wizards with a M/C of Shaman are unique. So although I thought your selection system was sub-par, I didn't say a word.

I wasn't crying sour grapes. You're DM. Your choice.


It was when you brought two players up in the list and kicked two players down, that's when I called BS.

You consider that fair? Whatever dude.

I had no problem with your selection process until you started monkeying with it. If you made a scoring mistake, you should have just sucked it up and not told anyone.

Learn from your mistakes and stand by your rulings. You'll piss fewer people off. And grow a thicker skin while you're at it.


Personally, I think you owe Vertexx99 a major apology. You screwed him over royally.

Have fun with your game.

You need to just drop it. Personal insults are what's not cool and I'd appreciate it if you don't post in this thread again. I don't want to have to get the mods involved.