Mistwell said:Therefore, they would stack with actual "temporary hit points" as that term is normally used. And, might they not be healable while you are still under the effects of Inspire Greatness, since the hit points are only commensurate with the hit dice, and you still have the extra hit dice?
Hypersmurf said:This is how I read it - the temporary is an adjective describing the hit points, rather than an actual instance of the game element 'temporary hit points'.
The hit dice could potentially provide extra benefit to characters with feats like Practised Spellcaster or Natural Bond (which have bonuses that cap at the character's hit dice), and apart from the fixed d10, I'd be inclined to treat them as racial hit dice - humanoid, for most PCs - for purposes of BAB, Saves, Feats, and ability score increases.
Moral of the story? If you've got a 9th level bard in your party, figure out your +2HD stats in advance!
-Hyp.
The BAB increase, bonus to Fortitude save, and the hit points are all the bonus Hit Dice grant, aside from being treated as though you had an extra +2 hit dice.SRD said:A creature inspired with greatness gains 2 bonus Hit Dice (d10s), the commensurate number of temporary hit points (apply the target’s Constitution modifier, if any, to these bonus Hit Dice), a +2 competence bonus on attack rolls, and a +1 competence bonus on Fortitude saves. The bonus Hit Dice count as regular Hit Dice for determining the effect of spells that are Hit Dice dependant.
Mistwell said:I dunno Hyp, that seems like a like of bonuses from just 2HD.
Not quite.Hypersmurf said:When you cast Awaken and the animal gains +2 HD, do you increase his BAB and saves, check for extra feats, etc?
I do. He's gained two hit dice, and those things are a function of hit dice.
Inspire Greatness states that the subject gains 2 HD.
... which is significantly different from the text of Inspire Greatness.SRD said:An awakened animal gets 3d6 Intelligence, +1d3 Charisma, and +2 HD.
System Resource Document said:An awakened animal gets +2 HD
System Resource Document said:A creature inspired with greatness gains 2 bonus Hit Dice
Nifft said:IMHO, the specific, enumerated benefits from Inspire Greatness's bonus HD are the only benefits of those HD.